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Universal team up with SuperDeluxeEdition.com to create stunning 6-disc super deluxe editon box set.


Roland Orzabal: (speaking to Paul Sinclair in 2014)

“We had let go of any Tears For Fears ideology, because it all came out in The Hurting. We were getting older, we had a bit of money, so life wasn’t that bad [laughs]. I mean, I bought my first house at 21. There wasn’t the ‘difficult second album syndrome’. It was an easy second album syndrome. You know, instead of being so het up by ‘the message’ we started to relax.”


Universal Music will reissue Tears For Fears second album Songs From The Big Chair in November as a six-disc super deluxe edition box set that, amongst all the bonus material, delivers every commercially issued b-side and remix of the era, previously unreleased radio sessions and early mixes and a high-resolution 5.1 surround sound mix courtesy or highly respected remixer and engineer Steven Wilson.

As with last year’s The Hurting reissue, Universal brought SuperDeluxeEdition editor Paul Sinclair on board to assist with the reissue project. He has not only had access to the archives to help with the track selection, but has also interviewed the key players from the era, including band members Roland Orzabal and Curt Smith, producer Chris Hughes and A&R man Dave Bates. The result of this work is an extensive “In their own words” track-by-track guide to Songs From The Big Chair within the 32-page booklet. Additionally, Paul has written a guide to every bonus track within the box set, so as well as knowing what has been included, fans will understand why each extra track has been included.

Disc one within the box set contains the remastered album and includes all the original Songs B-sides. In fact, the first 14 tracks deliberately replicate the original running order of the limited edition UK cassette version of Songs From The Big Chair that added six bonus songs to the eight-track album.

The second CD – Edited Songs From The Big Chair – largely contains various single versions/edits released around the world, including the U.S. Remix (actually a re-recording) of Mothers Talk (a song that was both the first and last single from the album), and I Believe (A Soulful Re-recording). Previously unissued on any audio format – but included on this disc – is the ‘Video Version’ of the American remix of Mothers Talk which contains a unique intro, as well as a promo-only ‘Radio Version’ of Head Over Heels that has never been commercially released. Charity single Everybody Wants To Run The World finally makes it onto a Tears For Fears deluxe edition (along with the semi-instrumental B-side ‘Running Version’ of the same song) and stunning album closer Listen is included with a clean intro so it can be enjoyed without the normal cross-fade. A Curt and Roland interview with short audio clips (originally included on the UK seven-inch double-pack of Everybody Wants To Rule The World) completes disc two.

Songs From The Big Chair / 6-disc super deluxe

Remixed Songs From The Big Chair is an appropriate title for the third CD which is packed full of twelve-inch remixes. The UK extended versions of The Way You Are (a non-album single), Mothers Talk and Shout are all included (having all been omitted from the 2005 deluxe edition) along with the ‘Acappella’ Mix of Shout and the instrumental version of Everybody Wants To Rule The World – both previously unreleased on CD. The alternate US Remix of Mothers Talk which (apparently inadvertently) appeared on the 2005 deluxe in place of the standard US Remix is also repeated here.

A fourth and final CD contains 14 tracks that have never been commercially available. Unreleased Songs From The Big Chair treats listeners to 1984 BBC radio sessions, the three tracks included on the Canadian promo-only Live At Massey Hall twelve-inch, along with three further tracks from Massey Hall (Shout, Mothers Talk and The Working Hour) newly mixed from the multi-track tapes. For the first time the band have authorised lifting the lid on some of their work-in-progress. To that end, early mixes of Mothers Talk, The Way You Are, Broken and Shout are included on disc four along with an unheard, rejected seven-inch edit of Everybody Wants To Rule The World.

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Hi-res 5.1 surround mix / Cover to disc 5

A fifth disc is a DVD that contains a brand new 2014 5.1 surround sound mix of Songs From The Big Chair created by Steven Wilson and personally approved by Roland Orzabal. A new 2014 stereo mix is also included. Both mixes are flat transfers with no additional mastering EQ or compression applied. Paul Sinclair encouraged Universal to issue this as
a DVD-A (DVD Audio) to allow fans with the appropriate hardware (DVD-A compatible DVD player) to enjoy a lossless hi-res surround version of Songs From The Big Chair. The disc remains fully compatible with standard DVD players which will still be able to deliver the surround mix in Dolby 5.1 and DTS. A hi-res stereo mix can be enjoyed by all. This DVD is region free.

A standalone Pure Audio blu-ray audio is also being released that includes the 5.1 and stereo mixes in hi-res as well as the original album mix.

A sixth and final disc is another DVD that delivers the classic Scenes From The Big Chair documentary, along with the 2005 interview with producer Chris Hughes that was added to the standalone DVD reissue). Additionally, all the promo videos from the album are featured separately, including the rare early UK promo and US versions of Mothers Talk and non-album single The Way You Are). The icing on the cake is a selection of eight performances on BBC TV including six appearances on Top Of The Pops and a couple of spots on eighties chat show Wogan.

Songs From The Big Chair super deluxe box set and other formats are released on 10 November 2014. This BIG box is currently available for a relatively SMALL price from Amazon UK. See links below along with the full track listing.


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Track listing

DISC ONE

  • 01. SHOUT : 6:31
  • 02. THE WORKING HOUR : 6:29
  • 03. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD : 4:09
  • 04. MOTHERS TALK : 5:04
  • 05. I BELIEVE : 4:54
  • 06. BROKEN : 2:38
  • 07. HEAD OVER HEELS : 5:02
  • 08. LISTEN : 6:54

Bonus tracks 

  • 09. THE BIG CHAIR : 3:20
  • 10. EMPIRE BUILDING : 2:41
  • 11. THE MARAUDERS : 4:13
  • 12. BROKEN REVISITED : 5:15
  • 13. THE CONFLICT : 4:02
  • 14. THE WORKING HOUR – Piano Version : 2:08
  • 15. PHARAOHS : 03:42
  • 16. WHEN IN LOVE WITH A BLIND MAN : 2:22
  • 17. SEA SONG : 3:51 

DISC TWO – Edited Songs From The Big Chair (this is second CD in the 2CD deluxe)

  • 01. THE WAY YOU ARE : 4:49
  • 02. MOTHERS TALK – Single Version : 3:53
  • 03. SHOUT – Single Version : 5:58
  • 04. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD – Single Version : 4:14
  • 05. HEAD OVER HEELS – Remix : 4:15
  • 06. I BELIEVE (A Soulful Re-Recording) : 4:39
  • 07. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RUN THE WORLD : 4:30
  • 08. THE WAY YOU ARE – Short Version : 4:21
  • 09. MOTHERS TALK – U.S. Remix : 4:14
  • 10. SHOUT – U.S. Single Version : 4:51
  • 11. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RUN THE WORLD – Running Version : 4:30
  • 12. HEAD OVER HEELS – Radio Version : 4.20
  • 13. MOTHERS TALK – Video Version : 4:14
  • 14. SHOUT – Short Version : 4:03
  • 15. LISTEN – Clean Intro : 6:52
  • 15. INTERVIEW WITH CURT & ROLAND : 7:35

DISC THREE – Remixed Songs From The Big Chair (exclusive to box)

  • 01. THE WAY YOU ARE – Extended Version : 7:37
  • 02. MOTHERS TALK – Extended Version : 6:18
  • 03. SHOUT – Extended Remix Version : 7:40
  • 04. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD – Extended Version : 5:40
  • 05. BROKEN / HEAD OVER HEELS / BROKEN – Preacher Mix : 8:00
  • 06. MOTHERS TALK – Beat Of The Drum Mix : 8:54
  • 07. SHOUT – U.S. Remix : 8:02
  • 08. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD – Urban Mix : 6:06
  • 09. MOTHERS TALK – U.S. Remix alternate : 4:12
  • 10. SHOUT – Dub : 6:49
  • 11. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD – Instrumental : 4:21
  • 12. SHOUT – Acappella : 5:02

DISC FOUR – Unreleased Songs From The Big Chair (exclusive to box)

  • 01. HEAD OVER HEELS : 4:14 Richard Skinner Session
  • 02. THE WORKING HOUR : 6:06 Richard Skinner Session
  • 03. BROKEN : 3:19 Richard Skinner Session
  • 04. MOTHERS TALK : 4:05 Live At Massey Hall
  • 05. BROKEN / HEAD OVER HEELS : 5:01 Live At Massey Hall
  • 06. MEMORIES FADE : 6:50 Live At Massey Hall
  • 07. THE WORKING HOUR : 7:31 Live At Massey Hall
  • 08. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD : 4:19 Live At Massey Hall
  • 09. SHOUT : 7:50 Live At Massey Hall
  • 10. MOTHERS TALK – Early Mix / Instrumental : 4:39
  • 11. THE WAY YOU ARE – Early Mix : 4:25
  • 12. BROKEN – Early Mix : 5:38
  • 13. SHOUT – Early Mix : 5:08
  • 14. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD – Alternate Single Version: 4.20

DISC FIVE (DVD-A)

5.1 and Stereo mix

  • SHOUT : 6:32
  • THE WORKING HOUR : 6:31
  • EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD : 4:11
  • MOTHERS TALK : 5:10
  • I BELIEVE : 4:54
  • BROKEN : 2:38
  • HEAD OVER HEELS : 5:20
  • LISTEN : 6:49

DISC SIX (DVD-V) (exclusive to box)

Documentary

  • 01. SCENES FROM THE BIG CHAIR – Documentary : 1:14:43
  • 02. INTERVIEW WITH PRODUCER CHRIS HUGHES : 35:00

Promos

  • 03. THE WAY YOU ARE – Music Video : 3:57
  • 04. MOTHERS TALK – Alternative UK Video : 4:00
  • 05..MOTHERS TALK – Music Video : 4.49
  • 06. SHOUT – Music Video : 6:31
  • 07. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD – Music Video : 4:52
  • 08. HEAD OVER HEELS – Music Video : 4:26
  • 09. I BELIEVE – Music Video : 4:45
  • 10. MOTHERS TALK – US Mix – Music Video : 4:52
  • 11. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RUN THE WORLD – Music Video : 4:52

 BBC TV Appearances

  • 03. THE WAY YOU ARE : 4:11 Top Of The Pops
  • 04. MOTHERS TALK : 3:48 Top Of The Pops
  • 05. MOTHERS TALK : 3:51 Top Of The Pops
  • 06. SHOUT : 4:20 Top Of The Pops
  • 07. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD : 4:08 Wogan
  • 08. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD : 3.35 Top Of The Pops
  • 09. EVERYBODY WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD : 3.45 Top Of The Pops
  • 10. THE WORKING HOUR : 4:28 Wogan

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Scott DeAscentis

Mr. Sinclair,
Are the promos videos and live performances on the dvd portion of the box set have DD 5,1 or DTS 5.1 audio options?

Robert Molema

Any news, updates or scheduled release date for the Seeds box set? Still patiently waiting….for many years now :-( Pst: I’ll keep waiting!

Robert Molema

Any news,updates or scheduled release date for the Seeds box set? Patiently waiting….

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Henry

Paul

Can you tell me which track are ‘remastered’ on the first four discs please.

Thanks in advance!

Henry

At least I know the first three discs are remastered. Thanks, I appreciate it.

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Vils

Trawled through these comments whilst waiting for my box set to arrive.
There is some useful information here that could usefully be consolidated somewhere more accessibly – particularly the explanation of the DVD sources and the compromises that had to be made.

Matt

Paul I forgot to ask, in the Shout mixes/acapella what is Roland saying in the break. It sounds like some type of chant.

Matt

Paul, what’s the difference between the 8:58 version of the” Beat of the Drum Mix” of “Mothers Talk” and the longer 9:18 “full version” that only appeared on acetate?

Matt

I see. I thought it might have been a little different mix. It’s a very bizzare mix and strange that they chose to do it instead of extending certain things here and there and thwing in some reverb etc. like the 12″ mixes of this time.

Julian H

The Extended Version basically is what you describe.

Matt

Paul, I was curious when I saw some of the promo clips on the DVD having title cards and credits. They also look like they come from VHS sources. What are the sources for these especially Head Over Heals where you can just see credits start to roll at the end and why did you choose these sources. Also, any chance of ever hearing those versions of Run The World with the soundbytes and the Mother’s Talk version you too late to include?

Matt

Very interesting to see them from those sources and yes I think this is the final word on “Songs” as this set really can’t be beat.

Mike

is there a possibility to have a new relased of the DVD in PAL ?
and in 4:3 aspect ratio to have the full cinematography seen on the screen?

all clips were 4:3 and all 16×9 TV’s have aspct ratio buttons to
display 4:3 content correctly

Mike

Can the DVD with all the promos also be had in PAL format ?

I’m asking because most of the clips were filmed 25 fps.
PAL would faithfully represent the work of the Director.

Thanks

Michael

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Jonah McGarva

So, I now have this box, and although I am quite happy with it (despite NOT including the proper We Are Broken and featuring some vinyl rips of the Massey show, which makes no sense as the rest of the trax are sourced from master tapes) – I have discovered another “error”

The original songs from the album (CD1 tracks 1-8) have a weird volume fluctuation going on.

If you listen carefully and examine the WAV files, yuo can plainly hear and see that the Left channel is approx. 1-2.5 dB louder than the right channel.

Why? This is a crazy expensive box set, and the content is amazing – and even the sound of the remastered album is great (finally some low end bass!) – but it is a pain to have to go into a sound editor to fix a mistake, that the mastering engineer should have caught.

Being a mastering engineer myself, I find this appalling, as a lot of deluxe editions and box sets have come out with errors in the mastering (the Frankie box from a few years ago comes to mind, where the first 5 songs were transferred with only the left channel intact) and the fact that we, as consumers who put our hard earned money into the labels’ coffers, get left out in a lurch – having spent large sums of money to get a faulty product.

I have researched this issue with this particular box, and I am not the only one who has heard this issue, as it has been reported on many music forums.

Any ideas on if this will be fixed? or if better attention will be paid for the Seeds box?

Rich

Excellent release and wonderfully put together. I treated myself to the box set. The following may interest aficionados of the album: I noticed that on the DVD’s Stereo Mix, ‘I Believe’ ends by fading out completely, rather than running into ‘Broken’, giving ‘Broken’ a clean intro possibly for the first time ever.

Julian H

I noticed it too and I didn’t like it.

Dan Stapleton

Hi Paul, sorry if this has already been addressed, but can you please let us know exactly which version of the album is on CD1? I gather it’s the “original” mix, but has it been compressed/EQed/normalised for this reissue?

Robert Goodman

Hi Paul! Excellent job here! I got this for Christmas and there is soooo much to love! I’ve going through the rare tracks first – have a new 7.1 system on the way so this will be the first surround mix I try on it.

I have a question that was skipped waaay above that I can’t find the answer. The “single version” of “Everybody Wants To Rule The World”… what’s the difference between that and the album version? It’s almost identical running time and I can’t tell any differences. Not sure if this was added because it was a different mix on paper?

My only minor gripe is yeah like someone said above – some of the BBC vids are like widescreen, made full screen, then made widescreen again, which is the effect of when you watch full screen stretched to a wide screen, but then put a black bar around it… pretty sure most tv stuff would have been 4:3. It’s an OCD thing mainly. But I fully understand what a nightmare it can be getting those right in a time constraint – I have a compilation that was all wrong like that and fixing it was a headache and a half. Again MINOR in a box full of major triumph. The sound – beautiful! The extra mixes… US and UK both… the promo vids I hadnt seen like the first Mothers Talk. Top Notch box set!

Dan Stapleton

Hi Paul, sorry if this has already been addressed, but can you please let us know exactly which version of the album is on CD1? I gather it’s the “original” mix, but has it been compressed/EQed/normalised for this reissue?

Mike the Fish

Well I’ve been listening to this, and as a lover of 5.1 mixes it is actually the huge amount of stereo bonus material that I’m really enjoying. I particularly enjoyed the regular 12″ version of Mother’s Talk, and the US mixes. I was also surprised, having not listened to the 12″ of The Way You Are for years probably how much I enjoyed that too. Meant in the nicest possible way, it could have been a classic b-side.

Don

I am also getting my refund as they have confirmed I was sent the wrong one. Still would be great to have that vinyl mix though.

pocox

the turquoise 2014 stereo mix vinyl can be ordered from here:

http://store.universal-music.co.uk/euro/tears-for-fears-songs-from-the-big-chair-vinyl-2014/invt/0602547005915

this is where I ordered it from and got it correctly!

BR

Gyula

Jason

Can anyone confirm that the U.S. 12″ version of “Everybody Wants To Rule The World” is different than the U.K. 12″ version? In one of my Amazon.com reviews, a fan states that his U.S. 12″ of “Everybody Wants To Rule The World” is different: “the most striking difference is the beginning”.

Jason

Thank you, Paul. That’s what I thought.

Kelton

Can someone help me sort out Disc 5? My surround equipment isn’t high end, but I’m trying to understand exactly what’s on the disc. According to my player, it looks like:

Title 1 = Original Mix (What is this exactly? The same mix as on Disc 1?)
Title 2 = 2014 Mix (With 2 audio choices? PCM stereo and DTS 5.1?)
Title 3 = 2014 Mix (In Dolby 5.1?)

Is that right or am I way off? Sorry for sounding like an idiot, I’m new to surround/5.1 stuff.

Thanks!

Julian H

“Original Mix – same as disc 1 but this version better quality being in hi-resolution stereo (96/24).”

Which is debatable (at least the profit of a higher sample frequency) due to the use of that digital compressor.

mike

i got same letter saying their is no turquoise 2014 vinyl available.
any idea where to get one?

Heinerich

Sigh* I received the standard “grey” vinyl instead of the turquoise 2014 remix, which I preordered from Universal… Today I got the “standard e-mail from them, telling me that they don’t have it any longer…
Is there any way to get this resolved and receive the correct LP? Please

Jason

I received my 4-CD/2-DVD box set today. It is wonderful! Beautifully packaged and loaded with information and music, of course. Nice work, Paul and everyone involved in the project. You guys truly did an overall fantastic job!

With that said, I have to admit that I am puzzled with the inclusion of a vinyl transfer for the U.S. Single Version of “Shout”. In my own collection, I have it in digital form (not vinyl transfer) on Universal’s own “More Pure 80’s” CD, released in 2000 on UTV Records, plus a few other compilations (no vinyl transfers either). I am thinking that the U.S. Division of Universal Music has it readily available in digital form, since it just recently appeared on the 2014 release, “ICON: ’80s Hits”, released by Universal Music (U.S.) as well.

If one glances over the All Music (www.allmusic.com) page for the various versions of “Shout” featured on compilations, one will see that the U.S. Single Version (often running 4:03-4:07) has appeared on CD numerous times over the years. I doubt that they are all vinyl transfers either since, as I mentioned above, all the ones in my music collection are not from vinyl.

Any ideas, Paul?

Jason

Thank you for the response, Paul.

Fear Of The Dark

Okay, I’m curious – what was the great version of Mothers Talk that was found too late? (Fair enough if you are not at liberty to say.)

Julian H

I’d like to know as well. :)

Ronen

I also received the ‘grey’ LP from Universal instead of the ‘blue’ 2014 remix. Can you please let me know who I need to contact in order to get this resolved and receive the correct LP? A direct email address would be great. Many thanks.

axs

Just noticed a 2014 mix vinyl sold on eBay for over £100!! Still seems to be available on the record label website though.

trash

Hi Paul –

Just received the correct vinyl version. Not had a chance to play it yet but it ‘looks’ great.
I can’t thank you enough for sorting this out for me (and others), you really went the extra mile. Please convey my thanks to the product manager also.
Very much appreciated!
Cheers
Trash
P.S. By the way, do you happen to know if the MP3 download mentioned on the front cover is a download of the standard mix or of the Stereo Mix?

pocox

HI Guys,

does somebody know where can I order the :

Tears For Fears ‎– Songs From The Big Chair (2014 Stereo Mix)
Label: Mercury ‎– 4700591, vinyl?

I followed the link for preorder that was here in the article. It was working I ordered the vinyl, it was showing the green cover one on the site. Then i received today and it is the grey one:

Tears For Fears ‎– Songs From The Big Chair
Label: Mercury ‎– 3794995, backtoblack vinyl.

I checked the Udiscover link here again and the item is not available anymore…can I be so unlucky that they mixed up my order, and this is sold out already and i can only buy it for hundreds of euros??? sometime..????:((

pocox

Hi Paul,

If you have a spare one for me i would be very happy to get one and pay you the price. (Only now i went through the comments..sorry)

tnx

Gyula

Keith

Stumbled upon this amazing site and had to run out to get the BR-audio! It states that the “original mix” is included, in addition to the Steven Wilson 2014 Stereo Mix & 5.1 Mix. Does anyone know if this “original mix” is the 1985 version or the new 2014 remaster by Chris Hughes?

Anyway, am super chuffed with the reissue and now cant wait for Seeds of Love to come next yr!

Kit

Thanks Paul. Email sent. This is most gracious of you.

Kit

Kit

Hi Paul. Got the 2014 mix vinyl today! Thanks again for all your help.

Kit

Hi Paul.
Got an email reply this morning. Same reply Trash got. Simply said they are not available and that I’d get a refund in 3-5 days and to keep the vinyl received. Would love to get what I pre-ordered. If you know of a way to get me a copy it would be greatly appreciated.
Kit

trash

Thank you so much Paul.
You’ll see my message subject:
“Message from ‘Trash’ re: TFF 2014 stereo mix”

Really appreciate this.

Cheers

Kit

Just received my pre-order vinyl of the 2014 mixes, but received the Back To Black version instead. Sent an email to the support email listed above. Will see what happens. Very disappointed that this has happened.

trash

Hi Paul –

Did you see my comment above – even after insisting and mentioning the conversation you had with the product manager they are still insisting that there is no stock :-(

Somehow I don’t see this being resolved…

trash

Thank you so much Paul.
You’ll see my message subject:
“Message from ‘Trash’ re: TFF 2014 stereo mix”

Really appreciate this.

Cheers

P.S. Maybe someone is hoarding the 400 in the hope they may be valuable one day :-)

trash

Hi Paul –

Had a response from Universal who are still insisting that the item is out of stock. Can you get the product manager to have a word with them – this seems ridiculous.
FYI here is the latest response:
———————–
Hi Joe

We are sorry as stated in the email below, we have no further stock left and are unable to send this out to you.

We have therefore issued a full refund and the payment will process within 3-5 days. Please note that there is no need to return the wrong record.

We apologise for the inconvenience and disappointment caused by this.

Kind regards
Jasmin
Digital Stores Customer Services

trash

Incidentally I now notice that the product has now been removed from the site…

This is all so so strange…

Many thanks for any further insights you can glean on this Paul.

cheers

Joe

Wayne Carter

Hope I am not asking something a second time…
Does anyone know where I can get good jpegs of all the covers for the Super Deluxe Box Set? Have imported all into my digital library and am a bit of a perfectionist..

Julian H

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Paul Chapman

Not wanting to take away from the fantastic audio content, but the DVD is awful, looks like awful youtube clips, ratio is all over the place.

Very disappointing, wouldn’t a simple port from any of the few available dvds been easier than what Universal served up

10/10 for the audio 0/10 for the dvd

Paul Chapman

Hi Paul,

Thanks for your reply.

I have the videos from multiple sources over the years & my comments are based what I’ve seen over the years.

Using Mothers Talk (US Version) as you have highlighted it I have in far better quality, so it’s out there.

The incorrect ratio of the clips is terrible quality control, there are many 80’s artists where a professional job has been carried out, Frankie’s – Frankie Said recently being a good example, BBC footage in a ratio that wasn’t in different ratios??

The quality isn’t so much the issue, it is what it is.

Couldn’t Universal have done just a simple port of the Promos etc?, would have been easy & cheaper.

This isn’t a criticism aimed at you Paul in any shape or form & I hope you haven’t taken it that way.

It’s an outstanding Box Set as I’ve said several times over the last couple of weeks, all over Twitter etc

But the DVD isn’t of the same quality , a simple fact

Mark

Paul, the 24/96 stereo 2014 mix is divine, thank you.

Is there a 24/96 stereo mix of the Hurting lurking about? The hurting box set did not have a DVD-A disc?

Thanks

Mark

Mark

Thanks Paul, I wonder if Universal will release this to HD Tracks as they have with SFTBC, where you can buy the two 24/96 stereo mixes.

John Drake

SFTBC is available over at HDTracks now. Stereo only, but both the original recording remastered as well as the stereo Steve Wilson 2014 mix.

http://www.hdtracks.com/songs-from-the-big-chair

At first I wasn’t all that interested, as I’d always assumed from the sound of it that SFTBC was a digital recording (or had been entirely processed thru a Fairlight or something). However, I found this curious note at HDTracks:

“Songs From The Big Chair was originally recorded on 1/2″ analog tape in 1983 using a digital compressor that cut frequencies higher than 20hKz before being written to tape. This 2014 remaster was done by Andy Walter, at Abbey Road Studios from these same analog tapes which were transferred to digital at 96kHz/24-bit.”

So it sounds like the original master, having gone thru probably a 44.1kHz/16-bit digital compressor back in the ’80s, might as well be a digital recording. In other words, there’s little to no advantage to doing a high-resolution edition of the original master.

However, now I’m very interested in Steve Wilson’s 2014 remix, since that would have been taken from the original analog multitracks which were NOT run thru a digital compressor. So, apart from anything that had been sampled thru a Fairlight on the recording, you should see quite a bit of improvement in any 24-bit, 96kHz version of Wilson’s remix. The bass in particular should be a lot more realistic at 24-bit.

Matteo

Am I wrong or the track list in cd 2 is wrong? Track 14 should be the short version of shout while my player reports 4.40 time while track 9 that should be the us version reports 4.04
Matteo

Julian H

That’s correct. The Short Version is longer than the US Single Version.

Mark

Paul

We’re the original studio recordings analogue or digital and if digital does this mean the source for the 24/96 2014 remaster was actually 16/44.1?

trash

By the way – with all my whining about not get the correct vinyl edition I think I may have totally neglected to say what a great job you have done on this Paul.

– The packaging is great – I liked The Hurting packaging too and it is nice that the boxes are consistent. Loved the Gold sticker :-)

– My CDs were held together with a white band which was a nice touch as these things often come loose in transit.

– The content is superb – I have not worked through everything yet but, being a huge fan rather than a detailed completist, it certainly contains all I could want (perhaps more demos would have been nice but I suspect they don’t exist or they would have been included).

– Soundwise: I do most of my listening on headphones and to my ancient ears things sound very nice indeed – balanced and full with nice separation and no remastering artefacts (of the type that unfortunately still seem to blight some remasters).

– I’ve only skimmed the booklet so far and it’s nice to have the artist commenting on their work especially with the benefit of distance. I look forward to reading it all.

– The reproduction program…. hmmm….. I guess it’s a nice addition but as I flicked through it, it really reminded me of why I always found programmes a bit of a rip off (especially as an impoverished student). Still it could have been worse – at least there are no glass marbles in sight :-)

Overall a fitting tribute to a great album. As much as I rave about Elemental, SFTBC is still my favourite TFF album and this reissue *finally* does it justice.

Thanks again Paul.

Dave Harris

Quite annoyed to get the black and white version of the vinyl…thought the blue version LOOKED great as well as I’m sure sounding great. Hope universal pit this right!
The box set though is ACE!!

trash

This is indeed annoying as mine was posted late last week and received the next day. I email them straight away to say there had been an error and yet they are clearly still sending them out.

Perhaps they think/hope we wouldn’t notice :-)

trash

Hi Paul –

Thanks for doing this. I have been using the web from up until now which seems to send emails into a black hole.

I have now contacted them using the email above as you suggest. I’ll let you know when/if I hear anything.

Thanks again

P.S. Ordered the David Rhodes album :-)

trash

Hi Paul –

Just received this fromUniversal:

Good morning

We are sorry to hear that you have received the wrong album.

Unfortunately we have no remaining stock left and are unable to arrange a replacement.

We have therefore issued a full refund and the payment will process within 3-5 days. Please note that there is no need to return the wrong record.

We apologise for the inconvenience and disappointment caused by this.

Kind regards
————————————–

I’m kind of suspicious as I pre-ordered this pretty much straight away. I’m wondering was it ever *actually* available?

Oh well disappointed but at least I won’t be out of pocket. :-(
Thanks again for your help with this.

Tony Law

I got the same reply as trash. Thanks for the advice Paul – I will try that as well and hope they don’t now suggest an exchange as I have now unwrapped the black vinyl!

trash

Thanks for the continued updates on this Paul – I really can’t believe the effort are having to o through just to to get a simple order fulfilled.

Luckily I I have kept the album intact and unopened (as I really have no interest in replacing my original with a repressing).

I’ve taken your advice and written in again. I let you know what I hear…

Thanks again.

Tony Law

No reply yet. Meanwhile, I notice that the album seems to be available here: http://store.universal-music.co.uk/restofworld/tears-for-fears-songs-from-the-big-chair-vinyl-2014/invt/0602547005915
I wonder if I should place an order or whether I will get yet another black album…

Tony Law

Just got my vinyl and it too is the black cover vinyl version instead of the 2014 Stereo version. Really disappointed after the long wait.

Steven Roberts

“Do deluxe editions get any better than this?”

Yes – IMHO, the XTC CD/BD release are still the yardstick by which other SDEs need to be judged…

trash

Totally agree – The XTC reissues certainly set the benchmark in terms of quality and value for money…

Steven Roberts

I’ll tell you why the XTC edges out the Tears for Fears, and it’s not (just) the price – it’s the fact that all the music (original mix, remix, 5.1, demos, b-sides) is on the XTC Blu-ray in hi-res.

I think Universal have missed a trick with the Tears box set – if I had been in their shoes I would have pushed to put everything on the CDs on the included Blu-ray as well (at least in hi-res if not in 5.1), and included this expanded Blu-ray only in the box set.

So the casual fan gets the option of the standalone 5.1 Blu-ray in hi-res – and the dedicated collector gets *everything* in hi-res.

Mark

Will there be a CD of the 2014 stereo mix?

Will

Mine has just dropped through the door.
I went straight for the DVD-A 2014 stereo mix as I don’t really do surround. It’s clearly less compressed and more detailed than the previous deluxe edition without even running it through the Dynamic Range Meter.
It’s not a big an upgrade as the Hurting but it’s one of my favourite albums so any sound improvement is welcome.
Probably could’ve lived without the tour programme but the booklet is a good read with a lot more detail than you usually get with these sort of things.
Will work my way through the cds next week.

spaceboy

So glad to hear they’re going to do this for ‘Seeds.’

trash

Really? Where did you hear that out of interest. I hope it’s true.
Seeds would be good but I would be even more interested in a remaster of Elemental – a great album with a really strong set of b-sides. I’d love to hear the demos for this album too.

Julian H

Paul said this, it’s the first or second comment on this page :-)

trash

Oops – sorry.
September was so long ago… :-)

NeilKelly

Bad feedback already?

Tom

I received my copy today, looks good and sounds good.

My only comments ate the booklets feel like fanzines, other Universal box sets I have like this are hard back books.

Why no CD of the 2014 Stereo Mix? Its not even available to download, poor. I’m not an audiophile who has a surround set up and don’t fancy sitting in front of my tv to hear this new mix. Poor.

The booklet says the footage on the DVD was restored, but it looks like straight transfers from the old ‘Tears Roll Down’ VHS compilation complete with bad blurry graphics and at one point you see credits for it before they fade out quickly. I’m disappointed with the TOTP’s clips, the ratio for most of them have been recreated as widescreen but while others aren’t, strange. they are also poorer quality, probably due to the disc being a DVD9 and compression. The same happened with Universal’s Big Country BBC box set.

However, saying this its a great box to have and look forward to the next one one.

Tom

Hi Paul

As I said, I don’t want to sit in front of my TV to listen to this new mix. I’d rather have it on the go, car, mp3 player etc.

I don’t have a turntable and its a bit much to buy just to have the download of the new mix. I know, everyone is different but if it was me compiling I wouldn’t have included the bsides from The Hurting, regardless if they were on a SFTBC cassette because they shouldn’t have been included on that anyway. They are on The Hurting box set already. I don’t need a disc of single edits either. A new stereo mix is far more interesting than those, but I know there are completists for these things.

Neil

I’m going to rip the new stereo mix from the DVD with with some software and burn it to a disc assuming there is a LPCM layer on the DVD. I do agree though that the new stereo mix should have been released on CD because for the life of me i cannot see why anybody would be interested in buying the 2 disc edition to get a bunch of edits and i agree The Conflict should not be on this.

NeilKelly

I have a 2nd copy secured at £37.99 but i may cancel it. Was hoping it would go back to £31.90 at some point. It’s currently about £45.99. I may be able to make a few quid towards my first copy but don’t think it’s worth the risk!

trash

Just received my supposed 2014 Stereo Mix blue cover vinyl edition – ordered specifically from Universal. Was very excited until I opened only to find it looks like a reissue of the standard edition – despite the fact that this is not actually listed on their site!
Still waiting to hear what they have to say about it – I still have my original so I’m not interested in a reissue of the same thing!

:-(

trash

Yes indeed – I got sent the black cover version which is not listed on the site so I don’t see how I could have ordered it in error.

Not happy…

trash

To be clear – I ordered directly from Universal using the link posted above…

The link still points to the new Stereo mix version (and Universal don’t seem to be selling the normal version) so I think someone screwed up – but I’ll see what they have to say when they eventually get back to me.

Dave Harris

Hi Trash. The same happened to me! I’m not happy either. Ordered the “blue version” and today received the normal black and white version.

trash

I’ve sent three emails to Universal so far and heard nothing (not even an acknowledgement that they have received my emails).

Thanks for following up on this Paul – anything you can find out will be much appreciated.
Dave, if I hear anything I will post back here…

Cheers

mike

the same thing happened to me. They sent me the normal black and white edition. Not the green color tinted package. i emailed them now

Richard

Slightly annoyed Amazon just jacked the price up for the 6 disc set by £10 over the last few days.

I was over the moon it was £35, now it’s £45 I’m a little more “wait and see”. I’ll still get it mind you, I just will need to wait.