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David Bowie / New box set: ‘Loving The Alien’ / 15LP or 11CD

80s albums remastered • 2018 version of ‘Never Let Me Down’ • Selection of key remixes • Two live albums • ‘Recall 4’ features singles/B-sides 


For the fourth year in succession, Parlophone Records will release a major box set that summarises an era in the musical life of David Bowie. This October, Loving The Alien (1983-1988) will feature Bowie’s three solo albums from the period in question, and offer fans plenty of extra content, including a ‘new production’ of 1987’s Never Let Me Down, the first audio release of the Serious Moonlight Tour and a remix album.

The new Loving The Alien box set comes as a weighty 15LP vinyl package or an 11CD set. It features newly remastered versions of Let’s Dance (1983), Tonight (1984) and Never Let Me Down (1987). The vinyl version of Never Let Me Down sees the original CD versions of the tracks used on the format for the first time, just don’t go looking for Too Dizzy – originally on the album, but removed shortly after release, at Bowie’s request – because it does not appear anywhere in this new box set.


The 15LP vinyl version of Loving The Alien (click image to enlarge)


Having successfully reworked the single Time Will Crawl from 1987’s Never Let Me Down for 2008’s iSelect compilation album, Bowie wrote in the sleeve notes for the latter, “Oh, to redo the rest of the album”. Sadly that never happened in his lifetime, but it was Mario McNulty who had recorded and mixed that new version of the song for David (it wasn’t called the ‘MM’ remix for nothing) and the same man has now created a brand new production of the whole album, with new instrumentation by Bowie collaborators Reeves Gabrels (guitar), David Torn (guitar), Sterling Campbell (drums), Tim Lefebvre (bass – he played on Blackstar) as well as string quartet with arrangements by Nico Muhly. This new version includes a guest cameo by Laurie Anderson (who takes the Mickey Rourke ‘role’ on Shining Star (Makin My Love)).  You can get a taster of what this new version sounds like, by previewing a ‘radio edit’ of Zeroes (2018) below.



Loving The Alien delivers this 2018 version of Never Let Me Down across 2LPs on the 15LP vinyl edition of the box and on one CD on the 11CD version.

Never Let Me Down 2018 is a 2LP set with newly ‘remixed’ artwork 


The new box set also includes the 1983 Serious Moonlight Tour live album, recorded in Vancouver in that same year. This was originally mixed at the time by Bob Clearmountain, but a live album was never released (although the video of the concert was issued on VHS, Laserdisc, and much later, on DVD). This is a double CD set in the 11CD version of Loving The Alien and a 3LP vinyl offering in the 15LP vinyl box set. The artwork features shots taken by photographer Denis O Regan (read about his Riochet book, here).

Talking of concert audio, the Glass Spider live album (recorded in Montreal in ’87) is also included in Loving The Alien. Unlike Serious Moonlight, this has been issued before, but not on vinyl, so it makes it’s debut as a 3LP set in the 15LP box (it’s 2CD in the 11CD box set).

‘Dance’ in the box set features a selection of original remixes – but not all of them.


Because the 1980s was the era of the remix – extended, dub, vocal, bonus beats, etc. – Bowie fans have probably been wondering whether all, some, or (gulp) none of the remixes from the time would be included in any box set that might be released.

Parlophone have decided to include remixes (thank goodness for that), although it’s a selection of a dozen remixes, covering most of the singles. Fans will be aware that there were no official remixes of any of the Let’s Dance 45s, but Parlophone have included the remix/long version of album track Shake It, which was hidden away on the B-side of the China Girl 12-inch single.

This remix set in the box is called Dance (a name pinched from an unreleased Bowie remix album that almost saw the light of day in late ’85) and the Estate and record label appear to have selected what they presumably consider to be the ‘best’ remix of each song. All other variants are regarded as surplus to requirements (see ya later Underground Dub Mix and Girls Japanese Version!). So, as an illustration, with Day-In Day-Out and Time Will Crawl, ‘they’ have opted in both cases to go with the second UK 12-inch remixes (‘Groucho’ and ‘Dance Crew’ mixes, respectively) and not the more common 12-inch versions. Not bad choices actually, although I’m not sure I’d have put the dub/acapella version of Never Let Me Down ahead of the standard 12-inch.

Re:Call 4 features single mixes, songs from soundtracks and more


So with studio albums, re-workings, live albums and remixes all dealt with, the new Loving The Alien (1983-1988) box ends with the now familiar Re:Call compilation – the ‘odds and sods’ gathering up exercise. Re:Call 4 is three vinyl records or two CDs and mainly focuses on delivering the original single versions of most of the 45s from this era. There are also a few B-sides (Julie, Girls), songs from soundtracks (Labyrinth, Absolute Beginners, When The Wind Blows etc.) and even the original vinyl edits of album tracks from Never Let Me Down.

One thing to consider is that this box set has more exclusive content than any of the previous three. Never Let Me Down 2018, remix album Dance and Re:Call 4 are all exclusive to Loving The Alien and won’t be released separately (Parlophone have honoured their commitment with the exclusives from previous sets). Additionally, the 2LP Serious Moonlight concert and the 3LP Glass Spider concert are exclusive to the vinyl box. So 12 out of the 15 vinyl records are exclusive to the vinyl box. With the CD box you get four CDs of exclusive content.

The 11CD vinyl version of Loving The Alien (click image to enlarge)


As before, both boxes come with an accompanying book (128 pages in the CD box and 84 in the vinyl set) which will feature rarely seen and previously unpublished photos by photographers including Denis O Regan, Greg Gorman, Herb Ritts and many others along with historical press reviews and technical notes about the albums from producers/engineers Nile Rodgers, Hugh Padgham, Mario McNulty and Justin Shirley-Smith.

The 11CD box set offers the always excellent Japanese-style ‘mini-LP CD’ vinyl replica versions of the original albums (the CDs will be gold coloured again). The 15LP set is pressed on 180g ‘audiophile quality’ vinyl.

Both editions of this Loving The Alien box set are released on 12 October 2018.

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Loving The Alien 15LP Box Set

Summary:


  • 88 Page hardback book
  • Let’s Dance (remastered) (1LP)
  • Serious Moonlight (Live ’83) (previously unreleased) (2LP)*
  • Tonight (remastered) (1LP)
  • Never Let Me Down (remastered) (1LP)
  • Never Let Me Down (2018) (previously unreleased) (2LP – side 4 is etched)*
  • Glass Spider (Live Montreal ’87) (previously unreleased on vinyl) (3LP)*
  • Dance (2LP)*
  • Re:Call 4 (non-album singles, edits, single versions, b-sides and soundtrack music) (remastered) (3LP)*


* Exclusive to ‘Loving The Alien (1983-1988) LP box’

Detail:

LET’S DANCE

Side 1


  1. Modern Love
  2. China Girl
  3. Let’s Dance
  4. Without You

Side 2


  1. Ricochet
  2. Criminal World
  3. Cat People (Putting Out Fire)
  4. Shake It

SERIOUS MOONLIGHT (LIVE ’83)

Side 1


  1. Look Back In Anger
  2. “Heroes”
  3. What In The World
  4. Golden Years
  5. Fashion
  6. Let’s Dance

Side 2


  1. Breaking Glass
  2. Life On Mars?
  3. Sorrow
  4. Cat People (Putting Out Fire)
  5. China Girl
  6. Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps)
  7. Rebel Rebel

Side 3


  1. White Light / White Heat
  2. Station To Station
  3. Cracked Actor
  4. Ashes To Ashes

Side 4


  1. Space Oddity/Band Introduction
  2. Young Americans
  3. Fame
  4. Modern Love

TONIGHT

Side 1


  1. Loving The Alien
  2. Don’t Look Down
  3. God Only Knows
  4. Tonight

Side 2


  1. Neighborhood Threat
  2. Blue Jean
  3. Tumble And Twirl
  4. I Keep Forgettin’
  5. Dancing With The Big Boys

NEVER LET ME DOWN

Side 1


  1. Day-In Day-Out
  2. Time Will Crawl
  3. Beat Of Your Drum
  4. Never Let Me Down
  5. Zeroes

Side 2


  1. Glass Spider
  2. Shining Star (Makin’ My Love)
  3. New York’s In Love
  4. ’87 And Cry
  5. Bang

NEVER LET ME DOWN (2018) 

Side 1


  1. Day-In Day-Out
  2. Time Will Crawl
  3. Beat Of Your Drum

Side 2


  1. Never Let Me Down
  2. Zeroes
  3. Glass Spider

Side 3


  1. Shining Star (Makin’ My Love) (ft Laurie Anderson)
  2. New York’s In Love
  3. 87 & Cry
  4. Bang Bang

Side 4


  • David Bowie 1987 logo etching

GLASS SPIDER (LIVE MONTREAL ’87)

Side 1


  1. Up The Hill Backwards
  2. Glass Spider
  3. Day-In Day-Out
  4. Bang Bang

Side 2


  1. Absolute Beginners
  2. Loving The Alien
  3. China Girl
  4. Rebel Rebel

Side 3


  1. Fashion
  2. Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps)
  3. All The Mad Men
  4. Never Let Me Down

Side 4


  1. Big Brother
  2. ‘87 And Cry
  3. “Heroes”
  4. Sons Of The Silent Age
  5. Time Will Crawl / Band Introduction

Side 5


  1. Young Americans
  2. Beat Of Your Drum
  3. The Jean Genie
  4. Let’s Dance

Side 6


  1. Fame
  2. Time
  3. Blue Jean
  4. Modern Love

DANCE

Side 1 


1 Shake It (Re-mix aka Long Version)
(Originally released on the B-side of the ‘China Girl’ 12” single on EMI America 12EA 157 (U.K.) and V-7809 (U.S.) in May, 1983.)

2 Blue Jean (Extended Dance Mix)
(Originally released on 12” single on EMI America 12EA 181 (U.K.) and V-7838 (U.S.) in September, 1984.)

3 Dancing With The Big Boys (Extended Dance Mix)
(Originally released on the B-side of the ‘Blue Jean’ 12” single alongside an Extended Dub Mix of the same, release details as above.)

Side 2 


1 Tonight (Vocal Dance Mix)

(Originally released on 12” single on EMI America 12EA 187 (U.K.) and V-7846 (U.S.) in November, 1984.)


2 Don’t Look Down (Extended Dance Mix)

(Originally released on the B-side of the ‘Loving The Alien’ (Extended Dance Mix) 12” single alongside the ‘Loving The Alien’ (Extended Dub Mix) on EMI America 12EA 195 (U.K.) and VG-7858 (U.S.) in May, 1985.)


3 Loving The Alien (Extended Dub Mix)

(Originally released on the B-side of the ‘Loving The Alien’ (Extended Dance Mix) 12” single, release details as above.)

Side 3 


1 Tumble And Twirl (Extended Dance Mix)
(Originally released on the B-side of the ‘Tonight’ 12” single alongside a ‘Tonight’ (Dub Mix), release details as above.)

2 Underground (Extended Dance Mix)
(Originally released on 12” single on EMI America 12EA 216 (U.K.) and V-19210 (U.S.) in June, 1986.)

3 Day-In Day-Out (Groucho Mix)
(Originally released on 12” single on EMI America 12EAX 230 (U.K.) and V-19239 (U.S.) in March, 1987.)

Side 4 


1 Time Will Crawl (Dance Crew Mix)
(Originally released on 12” single on EMI America 12EAX 237 (U.K.) in June, 1987.)

2 Shining Star (Makin’ My Love) (12” mix)
(Originally released on the ‘Never Let Me Down’ digital E.P. on EMI 0094639278954 in May, 2007.)

3. Never Let Me Down (Dub/Acapella)
(Originally released on the B-side of the ‘Never Let Me Down’ (Extended Dance Mix) 12” single on EMI America 12EA 239 (U.K.) and V-19255 (U.S.) in August, 1987.)

RE:CALL 4

Side 1


  1. Let’s Dance (single version)
  2. China Girl (single version)
  3. Modern Love (single version)
  4. This Is Not America (The theme from ‘The Falcon And The Snowman’) – David Bowie / Pat Metheny Group
  5. Loving The Alien (re-mixed version)

Side 2


  1. Don’t Look Down (re-mixed version)
  2. Dancing In The Street (Clearmountain mix) – David Bowie and Mick Jagger
  3. Absolute Beginners (from Absolute Beginners)
  4. That’s Motivation (from Absolute Beginners)
  5. Volare (from Absolute Beginners)

Side 3 


  1. Labyrinth Opening Titles/Underground (from Labyrinth)
  2. Magic Dance (from Labyrinth)
  3. As The World Falls Down (from Labyrinth)
  4. Within You (from Labyrinth)
  5. Underground (from Labyrinth)

Side 4


  1. When The Wind Blows (single version) (from When The Wind Blows)
  2. Day-In Day-Out (single version)
  3. Julie
  4. Beat Of Your Drum (vinyl album edit)
  5. Glass Spider (vinyl album edit)

Side 5


  1. Shining Star (Makin’ My Love) (vinyl album edit)
  2. New York’s In Love (vinyl album edit)
  3. ‘87 And Cry (vinyl album edit)
  4. Bang Bang (vinyl album edit)
  5. Time Will Crawl (single version)

Side 6


  1. Girls (extended edit)
  2. Never Let Me Down (7” remix edit)
  3. Bang Bang (live – promotional mix)
  4. Tonight (live) Tina Turner with David Bowie
  5. Let’s Dance (live) Tina Turner with David Bowie

Loving The Alien 11CD box set

Summary


  • 128 Page hardback book
  • Let’s Dance (remastered) (1CD)
  • Serious Moonlight (Live ’83) (previously unreleased) (2CD)
  • Tonight (remastered) (1CD)
  • Never Let Me Down (remastered) (1CD)
  • Never Let Me Down 2018 (previously unreleased) (1CD)*
  • Glass Spider (Live Montreal ’87) (2CD)
  • Dance (1CD)*
  • Re:Call 4 (non-album singles, edits, single versions, b-sides and soundtrack music) (remastered) (2CD)*

* Exclusive to ‘Loving The Alien (1983-1988)’


Detail:

CD TRACKLISTING

LET’S DANCE


  1. Modern Love
  2. China Girl
  3. Let’s Dance
  4. Without You
  5. Ricochet
  6. Criminal World
  7. Cat People (Putting Out Fire)
  8. Shake It

SERIOUS MOONLIGHT (LIVE ’83)

CD1


  1. Look Back In Anger
  2. “Heroes”
  3. What In The World
  4. Golden Years
  5. Fashion
  6. Let’s Dance
  7. Breaking Glass
  8. Life On Mars?
  9. Sorrow
  10. Cat People (Putting Out Fire)
  11. China Girl
  12. Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps)
  13. Rebel Rebel

CD2


  1. White Light / White Heat
  2. Station To Station
  3. Cracked Actor
  4. Ashes To Ashes
  5. Space Oddity/Band Introduction
  6. Young Americans
  7. Fame
  8. Modern Love

TONIGHT


  1. Loving The Alien
  2. Don’t Look Down
  3. God Only Knows
  4. Tonight
  5. Neighborhood Threat
  6. Blue Jean
  7. Tumble And Twirl
  8. I Keep Forgettin’
  9. Dancing With The Big Boys

NEVER LET ME DOWN


  1. Day-In Day-Out
  2. Time Will Crawl
  3. Beat Of Your Drum
  4. Never Let Me Down
  5. Zeroes
  6. Glass Spider
  7. Shining Star (Makin’ My Love)
  8. New York’s In Love
  9. ’87 And Cry
  10. Bang Bang

NEVER LET ME DOWN (2018)


  1. Day-In Day-Out
  2. Time Will Crawl
  3. Beat Of Your Drum
  4. Never Let Me Down
  5. Zeroes
  6. Glass Spider
  7. Shining Star (Makin’ My Love) (ft Laurie Anderson)
  8. New York’s In Love
  9. ’87 And Cry
  10. Bang Bang

GLASS SPIDER (LIVE MONTREAL ’87)

CD 1


  1. Up The Hill Backwards
  2. Glass Spider
  3. Day-In Day-Out
  4. Bang Bang
  5. Absolute Beginners
  6. Loving The Alien
  7. China Girl
  8. Rebel Rebel
  9. Fashion
  10. Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps)
  11. All The Mad Men
  12. Never Let Me Down

CD 2


  1. Big Brother
  2. ‘87 And Cry
  3. “Heroes”
  4. Sons Of The Silent Age
  5. Time Will Crawl / Band Introduction
  6. Young Americans
  7. Beat Of Your Drum
  8. The Jean Genie
  9. Let’s Dance
  10. Fame
  11. Time
  12. Blue Jean
  13. Modern Love

DANCE


  1. Shake It (Re-mix aka Long Version)
  2. Blue Jean (Extended Dance Mix)
  3. Dancing With The Big Boys (Extended Dance Mix)
  4. Tonight (Vocal Dance Mix)
  5. Don’t Look Down (Extended Dance Mix)
  6. Loving The Alien (Extended Dub Mix)
  7. Tumble And Twirl (Extended Dance Mix)
  8. Underground (Extended Dance Mix)
  9. Day-In Day-Out (Groucho Mix)
  10. Time Will Crawl (Dance Crew Mix)
  11. Shining Star (Makin’ My Love) (12” mix)
  12. Never Let Me Down (Dub/Acapella)

RE:CALL 4

CD 1


  1. Let’s Dance (single version)
  2. China Girl (single version)
  3. Modern Love (single version)
  4. This Is Not America (The theme from ‘The Falcon And The Snowman’) – David Bowie / Pat Metheny Group
  5. Loving The Alien (re-mixed version)
  6. Don’t Look Down (re-mixed version)
  7. Dancing In The Street (Clearmountain mix) – David Bowie and Mick Jagger
  8. Absolute Beginners (from Absolute Beginners)
  9. That’s Motivation (from Absolute Beginners)
  10. Volare (from Absolute Beginners)
  11. Labyrinth Opening Titles/Underground (from Labyrinth)
  12. Magic Dance (from Labyrinth)
  13. As The World Falls Down (from Labyrinth)
  14. Within You (from Labyrinth)
  15. Underground (from Labyrinth)

CD 2


  1. When The Wind Blows (single version) (from When The Wind Blows)
  2. Day-In Day-Out (single version)
  3. Julie
  4. Beat Of Your Drum (vinyl album edit)
  5. Glass Spider (vinyl album edit)
  6. Shining Star (Makin’ My Love) (vinyl album edit)
  7. New York’s In Love (vinyl album edit)
  8. ‘87 And Cry (vinyl album edit)
  9. Bang Bang (vinyl album edit)
  10. Time Will Crawl (single version)
  11. Girls (extended edit)
  12. Never Let Me Down (7” remix edit)
  13. Bang Bang (live – promotional mix)
  14. Tonight (live) Tina Turner with David Bowie
  15. Let’s Dance (live) Tina Turner with David Bowie

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Guill

A missing opportunity to have released the australian only 12″ of Cat People (Putting Out Fire) (Extended Version) of 9:21 minutes.
I wonder why this version was totally ignored anywhere else???
It is superb!!!!

Pete Fodor

Got my Vinyl from Amazon expecting the AutoRip as per the other Bowie Box Sets but not included this time which is a bit of a shame – can’t add to my iTunes etc.

Robert Paglia

2018 version of Never Let Me Down is transformative. Turned an album that I listened to maybe once several years ago into one of my favorite Bowie albums

Andrew b in the place to b

Lovely remastering on this box set.

Carl Smukall

OMG I ordered the 11 CD version and it is absolutely fantastic – they even put the CDs in plastic sleeves!! Packaging is great and the book is amazing!! Overall I give it 9.5 out of 10. Only very minor complaint is that the outer insert is not attached to the back and does not fit in the box so you have to leave it loose. Otherwise a first class box set release deserving of a prominent place in the Super Deluxe Edition legacy.

Otto Wolf Rüdiger von Wolfenstein

After to have head heard the box, nothing really to complaint.

Love the sound of the whole box

Only thing what I’d wished (like other people stated in other postings), more Remixes and less I don’t see the need of the Vinly Edits!

What’s missing for me are these Remixe, I ‘d wished also in that 2018 remaster-sound:

from: Never Let Me Down EP [Digital download 2007] [MP3]
-03 – Never Let Me Down (Extended Dance Mix)

from: Time Will Crawl EP [Digital download 2007] [MP3]
03 – Time Will Crawl [Extended Dance Mix]
04 – Time Will Crawl [Dub]

Adolfo Herrera II

The NLMD extended dance mix really isn’t that good, but I agree it should’ve been included if only to show how decadent & polished music was in that era. Love the song, especially the video.

Andreas

Forget the remixes – the 2018 re-recording is fantastic. Glass Spider (amazing), Shining Star . . what an album! Cant believe these tracks were so strong.

Alan Blevin

Back here in Australia.Amazon.com.au have just sent an email saying they will not be shipping the cd box until after 16 November.This is despite them specifically replying to people last week after not fulfilling the Imagine box preorders that they had enough copies of Loving The Alien to fill preorders.
I am done with these clowns.It took 9 days and repeated emails to get them to ship the Petty box when they had it in stock.
Three strikes and they’re out.

Bostonnnn

Box arrived. Gold CDs. Looks great. Will listen over the weekend.

Le Baron

Paul, will you do an unboxing video of this new box set? :)

Mark

Had the vinyl set on pre-order until last week but cancelled as I think the price will go down in a few months and it’s not (to me) his most essential material. Still want it though.

Bulldog

Honestly, for me, this set is all primarily about the long versions of “Blue Jean” and “Tonight” (very pricey cd wish fulfillment) , but I also thought it was giving us the dance mix of “Dancing In the Street”, which I forgot was the Steve Thompson mix. Now I see the Clearmountain Mix is THE shortest version of the song possible! #collectorwoes

Juan Antonio

Dear Paul
Do you know what is the criteria to discard songs like Too Dizzy on the album Never Let Me Down ?. I reiterate that the work of a true artist is built by his successes and failures. Equally neither in the previous Box Set nor in this they included the song Abdulmajid. Since they are already intentionally budgeting for the future a box with all the scraps and leftovers ?. I always appreciate your contributions to help us clarify every detail of the new reissues. Thanks!!!

Adrian

I am certain there is an alternative version of Cat People (Putting Out The Fire)
Not shown here in this new box?

James

To be honest I haven’t been thrilled with any of the box sets. I own them but some of the albums sound better the last time they were released. The bonus disc is a joke if you own other releases. Only thing interesting is having Lodger and NLMD remixed and the live album. Maybe it’s me but I’ve been collecting Bowie for a long time.

andrew R

For the first time in this series i am considering either passing or just the
cd box set . There don’t seem to be any deals as there were for the other 3
and £200 for the vinyl content seems to be too much . As a side issue i see
5 years vinyl commanding vast sums used but who shall i be ? is still available new, plentifully
Any idea why anybody?

Johan

Paul, you wrote: “Serious Moonlight 2LP and Glass Spider 3LP are exclusive to the vinyl box.” Are you sure about this? The only indication about the Serious Moonlight 2lp being exclusive to the box is an asterix in the press release.

In the text they specifically mention that 1987 Live is exclusive to the box: “Also included is the 2CD / 3LP GLASS SPIDER (LIVE MONTREAL ’87) album, making its debut on vinyl (which is exclusive to the LP box).”

But the text about 1983 Live does have a similar disclaimer: “Also in each box is the never before released ‘SERIOUS MOONLIGHT’ live album recorded in Vancouver, in 1983. Originally mixed at the time by Bob Clearmountain, the double album captures Bowie on what at that time was his most successful tour. The artwork features shots taken by photographer Denis O’Regan.”

Why would Serious Moonlight be exclusive to the vinyl box only? This would be a first in this reissue program: for the past three boxes there were no differences in terms of exclusivity between the vinyl and cd versions. I assume someone unintentionally put an asterix behind Serious Moonlight in the contents of the vinyl box.

[…] Zeroes 2018 will be released on 7 September 2018. The Loving The Alien box will follow in October. You can read all about that, here. […]

Rob Kirby

When we were discussing the possibilities for this box-set last year, I seem to ‘recall’ (ha!) that a few people suggested Loving the Alien as a title, even though previous sets had plumped for titles not used by any previous single or other compilations. I’m more than happy they went for Loving the Alien after all, as – frankly – having tried to find one myself, there was no appropriate title among the few original Bowie tracks on these albums that weren’t covers or re-visits of work such as Cat People and his songs with Iggy Pop. Loving the Alien is by far the best title for this set. Shake It – the only title that vaguely seemed to suit the change of emphasis during this era – would have sounded rather like a Cliff Richard collection, methinks :)

Anyway, I’m generally happy with what’s here – and a lot of it new to CD, of course – most of it expected (the extra live albums), including the selection of 12″s rather than including every single one. I presume this was working from what Bowie had decided upon, rather than being a posthumous choice, but it’s still disappointing that Dance wasn’t made a double CD, as I’d hoped it might be, to mop up as many as possible.

Recall isn’t entirely complete either, alas, as they’ve chosen – as I’d long feared – not to feature the instrumental B-side version of This is Not America, which is also the same remix of the song as on the A-side. I can understand why it wasn’t included as David’s only involvement, I’d guess, was singing on it, but annoying, as it was never featured on the original soundtrack. One for any specialist soundtrack release company, I guess, but it wasn’t a big, smash movie release so I won’t hold my breath on this…

Time for me to look out the Chic organisation CD with the Let’s Dance 12″ on, I guess…

motte

To all those who think ALL remixes should be included:
think this idea further and Black Tie White Noise must be a box of its own.
I have 14 versions of Jump They Say (album version not counted), 14 of Black Tie White Noise, 6 of Miracle Goodnight plus the remixes of other tracks from that album(and I’m not sure if my collection is even complete…). Not only would that make JTS and BTWN a double CD or tripple vinyl each but it would be very hard to listen to it (believe me, I once listened to all the remixes/edits in one go).

Michael

Yes, if we look at the 90s, BTWN already had a second disc 10th anniversary edition, which I have, with a whole cd of remix and bonus tracks, which does not even include all mixes from the eps. The deluxe editions of Outside and Earthling each have a full extra cd of remixes included, which again is not exhaustive of all official releases. And, for me, that bonus disc of remixes from Outside is just exhausting. I cannot listen to 8 industrial remixes of Hallo Spaceboy in a row, as much as I love the song. And a dozen new jack swing remixes of BTWN? Does anyone love listening to the Fame ’90 ep in full? Not me. Some editing is needed, and I like the approach of curating an album of mixes without all the redundancies of the same song over and over.

wayne klein

Not his best music but I will buy it. Here’s hoping the mastering is better and more consistent than the last set.

Graham

Apologies if someone has already posted this but why hasn’t ‘Under Pressure’ been included. It’s tagged onto my copy of Let’s Dance. Had been considering this box set but ‘Under Pressure’ missing would make me think twice.

daveid76

Actually given that Let’s Dance was recorded in late 1982 this set should be dated 82-88 or 82-87 even.

daveid76

Ah fair enough, I’m going by Pet Shop Boys’ rules! Cheers

[…] excitement this week with the news that Parlophone will issue the fourth in their series of David Bowie box sets. Loving The Alien […]

Aaron Van Wyk

Excellent. Great to see Never Let Me Down receiving a 2018 treatment.

So far, the only options for pre-ordering in Australia are:
Discrepancy Records – $349.99 (Free Standard Delivery)
Amazon Australia – $455 (Free Standard Delivery)
JB Hifi – $540 +$9 Delivery

Ken Gillespie

Discrepancy can do a little better in store too, still the best price for the vinyl set in Australia. Great people too!

CJ

So, where does this series go after this? Will Tin Machine be a box all on it’s own, continuing the more-or-less view of the band as something separate from Bowie’s main catalog (aside from the reissue of their first CD)? What will be done with the 90s albums, since they’ve been pretty well-expanded already? Will we delve into more un-released material, like some of the Outside volumes that would have followed the first CD? There is some soundtrack work to round up, but of the commercially released material, is there much that isn’t already out on deluxe editions?

Will they end the 90s box with Hours, as he ended the 90s, or will they add Heathen as well, breaking the series right before the long hiatus before The Next Day? Surely we’ll get TOY in whatever box Heathen appears in, hopefully?

GentleRabbit

My best guess would be this… I half assumed that the Tin Machine albums would be included in this set – and now that they haven’t been, they will either be skipped altogether (as with his Deram debut
From 1967) or included in the next set. That will most likely go up to Hours, with the final box covering Heathen through Blackstar.

That means boxes 5 and 6 will likely cover (either 4 or) 7 and 4 official albums each respectively, plus extras. I just can’t see them splitting the 90’s albums or starting the final set with Hours, for some reason.

Also, unless I’m mistaken, there is far more unreleased/rare material from the 90’s era than the 21st century – which adds to my suspicion that they may not include Tin Machine after all (perhaps just due to lack of space).

Who knows? We’ll find out soon enough. I do fully expect the series to continue all the way through to Bowie’s final releases, though.

Off-the-cuff guess:

BOX 5
Black Tie White Noise
The Buddha Of Suburbia
1. Outside
The Leon Tapes (I hope not wishful thinking)
Earthling
Live album from Outside or Earthling tours, or 50th Birthday concert (this might be too long)
Hours
Glastonbury, VH1 or BBC Radio Theatre
Re:Call 5

BOX 6
Toy
Heathen
Reality
A Reality Tour live album
The Next Day
The Next Day Extra
Blackstar
Re:Call 6

This still doesn’t feel quite right – Box 5 is seriously bloated and would cost s fortune – and due to the large amount of extras in the latest box, I can’t help but wonder if they could even stretch it all the way out to an eighth edition.

And then we have those 50th Anniversary Editions, likely to begin next year… let’s hope this is where we’ll finally get more outtakes etc. It’s gonna be a long wait, I do hope that we get an ‘Anthology’-type rarities box in due course.

GentleRabbit

Correction: stretch to a seventh edition, not an eighth.

Kari

Aren’t last 4 albums released by Sony (ISO/Columbia)? Is it likely that Warner (Parlophone) would make s box out if them?

GentleRabbit

True, but hopefully the wheels are in motion to figure something out…

Michael

The next box should be:
BTWN (2lp), Buddha, Outside (2lp), Leon (1 lp) Earthling, Liveandwell.com (2 lp), Dance 2 (or whatever they want to call it, with remix selections) (2 lp), Re:Call 5 (2lp)

I can see Leon coming out, if only because like Toy, Bowie seemed himself to have leaded the thing online in his last years.

Box 6:
Toy, Hours, Heathen, Reality, A Reality Tour (3lp), The Next Day (2lp), Next Day Extra, Blackstar, No Plan, Re:Call 6

I am sure I will be wrong, though.

GentleRabbit

Sounds good as well – I can’t remember if Toy was set for release before ir after Hours? I thought it was after, as Bowie’s first record of the new century, but was scrapped at the last minute in favour of completing Heathen (wasn’t the decision made in the wake of the September 11 attacks?)… but I could be wrong on that.

Would hope for a full live gig (at least the Bowie portion of the set) rather than the just the condensed Liveandwell.com from (perhaps) the Outside tour – when his band was particularly huge-sounding (a real recommendation is the Outside Tour Rehearsals or Outside Mix bootlegs, which collect soundboard recordings of rehearsals with this band, there are some career-best versions of certain tracks on there – and the band sounds like a big, juddering (and eater scary) monster behind Bowie.

I also wonder with regard to remixes… perhaps they’re not quite as identifiable with the era as on Loving The Alien, but they were still integral to his single and soundtrack releases and at the time, many are fantastic and they deserve inclusion… but how much space will be available?

It’s a juggling act for whoever has the privilege of putting these boxes together… but what a job to have! Have taken out my small loan and am paying it off already in anticipation… can’t wait for this now.

Bart

Yeah lets Hope for more rarities and outtakes because these recall discs are frankly dissapointment

Heinz

After HEATHEN there was REALITY in 2003.

Neil

And you are telling us this why ?

Marc F

I Think a boxset covering the 88-92 période could mare sense.
Here is my proposition :

David Bowie Boxset 5 (1988-1992)
Titre: Heaven’s is here/You belong in Rock’roll

CD1: Tin Machine (1 disc)
CD2: Tin Machine tour recorded live at La Cigale (16 titres) (1 or 2 disc)
CD3: Sound & vision 1990 tour (2 discs)
CD4: Rykodisc bonus tracks 1969-1987 (2 discs for +/- 30 tracks)
CD5: Tin Machine II (1 disc)
CD6: Tin Machine Live: Oy vey baby (1 disc)
CD7: It’s my life tour recorded in Hamburg on 24 october 1991 (2 discs)
Or Use your wallet unreleased album (1 disc)
CD8: Re:Call 5 (7 singles from TM & 1 from DB)
+ the unreleased sessions of Tin Machine

-SG-

Despite all of the goodies, I think ths box set completely misses the point of the original intention of this series: to present everything released commercially at the time. No unreleased albums no rerecordings, every remix should be here, all original album track listings should be present, the original Cat Peolpe should be on re:call. This is just a prime example of a post-death estate groupthink track listing. The whole thing reeks of record company politics. What is next, Tin Machine with strings, the Black Tie White Noise duets album?

MHP

Cat People (the original) WAS on the former Re:Call on the boxed set! And the intention has never bern to include everything. If so, then they goofed already on the first box by excluding the Ziggy re-recording of ‘The Supermen” and leaving out the 1979 remix of “John I’m Only Dancing”. The first box also included a Ziggy remix, so there was something unreleased on that as well… There are bits and pieces missing from all the boxed sets. And by the way, how do we know that Bowie didn’t approve this release before his passing? Certainly, the new Never Let Me Down was in the works before he passed. Fine if you want to criticize, but at least get your facts right first.

Nigel d Day

I thought the remix of JIOD was on the last boxset ? The 12” version on The Gouster, and the single edit on Re:Call 3

Jakob

The original Cat People was on the previous Re:Call. And there’s lots of stuff left off the other boxes that has technically been commercially available (just not at the time of release) and should’ve been in the boxes. So, par for the course, really.

I think this is a special case with Never Let Me Down, it’s very existence being a point against many fans finding enough value in the set to justify purchase. It’s that much of an albatross. It’s kind of a genius move to give us something intriguing, to draw us reticent fans in. I’m not sure the songs themselves are that strong, so it’ll probably be a case of polishing a turd, but I want to hear this polished turd (the MM version on Nothing Has Changed at least sounded really good to my ears).

Dean

The original Cat People was in the last set.

That aside, if you’re right, then it’s only partially. Bowie signed with Parlophone long before his death. The EMI deal was ending, and Bowie sold the rights to Parlephone moving forward. It will have been decided right at the start, likely as part of the bidding process, what would be released, and how.

In other words, this series of boxes were planned long ago, before anyone knew Bowie was nearing his death. As EMI had, Parlophone wanted to refresh the catalog to ensure they made money on the deal.

The question is – has the content of the boxes changed post death? I guess we can never know. Either way however, these would have come out.

wayne klein

I don’t think that the intention of this box was ever to not include material that hadn’t been released previously (after all, they need something exclusive to rope us in and the last set had the remix of “Lodger” as well) but to present the various albums without bonus tracks and kind of back to basics.

Jon

I grew up in the eighties (I was 6 in 1980) and Bowie’s 80’s period will always have a special place in my heart. Was it his “best” period? No, but it’ll always be first for me as a David fan. I know some fans like to bash those of us who like his 80’s work, but it’s all about everyone’s personal tastes. Let’s Dance is brilliant (except the forgettable “Shake It”)…but you have Modern Love, the title track, Ricochet, Criminal World…David wanted a hit and he got one. I loved Tonight growing up. I would listen to the LP on repeat. These days I feel it is one of his worst records. Don’t Look Down in fantastic and I just can’t get into Blue Jean. Loving the Alien is epic but David said he didn’t like the production. It’s a shame they didn’t re-record and rework the entire album. I’m still confused why Tina Turner was never mentioned in the booklet nor on the single of “Tonight”, strange given the Capitol owned EMI at the time. NLMDA is just a mess and I’m loving the new Zeroes version, can’t wait to hear the entire album. I bought the other three and will continue to buy all of these boxsets. Shame tho they didn’t include all the remixes.

-SG-

Ok you guys got me on the “Cat People.” So yeah it is not complete, less so than the first three, despite that it does look impressive with it’s contents. It seems as though the compilers have taken more liberties with each progressive set. So here there is a massive gap where his singles are concerned, the 80’s and the 12″ single being a very important piece of the whole picture. It seems dismissive to set many versions aside now and create a revised version of reality, as well as omitting the hated “Too Dizzy,”which should have been given a final airing for the set for the sake of completeness. Likewise in the first set the remix of Ziggy had been released previously in the vinyl set and was a remix not a complete overhaul. I am not against the idea, while I am actually really interested to hear what they have done, but it seems a bit anachronistic. And our version of revised now may be the laughing stock of rock journalism in 30 years. Likewise Bowie had mentioned how great the demos were for Tonight, perhaps they would have fit better in the timeline? Perhaps a different set.
Complaints or critiques aside I am still getting this set. But I question the revisionist quality…. it just sets bad precedent re-writing history. As physical media becomes more sparse and as sets like this over time become the last word, I think an unbiased picture of what really happened is essential. So up for next year Tin Machine with an orchestra, maybe it is an improvement, but just for the sake of decency, no posthumous Miley Cyrus duet.

Dean

I for one hope these sets aren’t the last word in a physical release. I’m in for one last effort.

I’d like to see the albums get the full on ‘Jethro Tull’ treatment. Give us book editions of each album, including Surround mixes. Many of the albums have surrounds already done, so it wouldn’t be as costly as it first seems. Give us a book(let) that ties everything together historically. Give us a sympathetic mastering.

Bowie’s catalog has been released rather slipshod over the years. We now have a situation where the Ryko extras just hang out there, for example. With them, and other tracks, missing – the book has yet to be written. Bowie’s catalog deserves it, and his fan deserve it.

I’ll buy all of these boxes – but I live in the hope that eventually we will see extravagant SDE’s that indeed become the final word for physical releases.

Bob Reid

what is the single version of modern love? I had that 45 back in the day and I don’t remember it being any different from the album version. Perhaps this is a mistake and they really meant the live B side version?

Chris Brown

The 7″ version of Modern Love is a slightly shorter edit of the album version: there’s an instrumental section cut out between the first chorus and the last verse and some of the repeats are cut out. I think the 12″ is the same as the album version but I haven’t got that.

Bob Reid

Thank you for your reply. I have long since forgotten. Shame we don’t get that live version though.

Annabel Lecter

Bob,

I was pretty sure my copy of Modern Love was an edit, so I’ve done a little digging on Discogs. It looks like there were 7” singles pressed with both the 4.49 album version and the 3.56 single edit.

https://www.discogs.com/David-Bowie-Modern-Love/release/766051

This is the one I own.

Bob Reid

Sounds like my copy had the album version.

AndyB

I am pretty sure that the single version of Modern Love is on every hits/singles compilation starting with ChangesBowie on Ryko. The album version is the one on Let’s Dance, of course. I am so accustomed to the album version that the edit always seems jarring when I hear it with just one bar of SRV’s guitar before the drums kick in.

Marco

Bets are officially open for the title of next box set: my choice is “Strangers When We Meet”.

RJS

Bus Stop.

Shaun

I’m pretty sure the next box will be called “Ian Fish, UK Heir”.

James

Can’t help but feel this should have been called ‘Dancing With The Big Boys’.

Tippy W

Or ‘Shining Star’…

Michael McA

Good one. Better than ‘Loving The Alien’.

80’s Bowie was very ‘ordinary’ and ‘normal’ in comparison to 70’s Bowie. He turned commercial and mainstream.

Francois

This one is nice, a total buy (CD version) for me.
I would like them to release a “surround” box with all the more (Heathen, Reality, Station to Station) or less (Ziggy, Young American) hard to find surround mixes. I have had the opportunity to hear Heathen in 5.1 and it was nothing short of amazing, but the SACD goes for crazy money.
Would anyone know if these mixes are available for legal download (except for Ziggy and Young Americans which I alreday own)?

Shaun

Francois, the Reality 5.1 was also released on dualdisc (dvd) format and can generally be found for cheaper than the sacd.

Dean

Both David Live, and Stage have had surround versions too.

dankerbankerton

the re:call concept now expanded to include “dance” – a remixes set. another re-working of an album without bowie involvement? clearly the only consistent aspect of these box sets is the price tag … “we’ve got this great new concept – we’re going to do a cd box set for about £100 and a vinyl for about £200 and then we are going to sculpt a bunch of material to fit within that well thought out concept of the mighty dollar bill”
we’ll say it’s got exclusive material – well, it’ll be exclusive for the next few years until we finish these £100 & £200 concept box sets – after that, well well welly well …..

Charles

I scored a CD of NLMD with Too Dizzy this weekend at a flea market. I agree the song should have been put on Recall. And Dance should have been two CDs, but I’m still preordering. Can’t wait for the 10 – 12 disc Tin Machine box set next year! :)

Dan

“One thing to consider is that this box set has more exclusive content than any of the previous three. Never Let Me Down 2018, remix album Dance and Re:Call 4 are all exclusive to Loving The Alien and won’t be released separately”

– unless you buy them digitally, I presume? While previous boxes have not been split up for physical sale, it’s always been possible to cherrypick tracks or specific discs for purchase as his-res downloads.

Dan

I haven’t listened to NLMD since 1987 – I hated it with a vengeance and gave away my copy. BUT – the new remix of ‘Zeroes’ sounds fantastic: it finally sounds like a David Bowie track (in fact it almost sounds like it belongs on ‘Buddha of Suburbia’), rather than a piece of bland, generic 80’s rawwwwk. I never thought I’d utter these words, but I’m seriously excited about hearing this version of NLMD (but I won’t be buying the box). Great choice of Bowie alumnus musicians on the new NLMD – including Sterling Campbell, Reeves Gabrels, David Torn and Tim Lefebvre.

Klaus

So there might still be hope for you. ;-)

Trash

I’m hoping that this will make me reassess NLMD too.

I’ve never liked it apart from the title track although I do have an original CD with Too Dizzy on it (and I don’t think it is that bad a track – he’s definitely done worse especially on the same album…. e.g. Glass Spider).

Contrary to a lot of other opinions I rather like Tonight. The production sounds weird too my ears but some of the songs are great (Ive never liked Blue Jean though)

MusicFan

Hi , @Tim Abbott, @LeeJay

Thank you very much for your insight as it is very interesting to see how Bowie’s legacy is being managed.

@LeeJay – while you are getting into Prince’s awesome soundboard recordings there are also numerous unreleased albums our there with tracks that have still never been released – hundreds in fact!

(I’m sure you know this).

ELJAY

hi
yes I’ve heard this, such a prolific artist wasn’t he. I guess we will see more in the future. purple rain deluxe was a good start and piano and a microphone is on its way.
I’ve just ordered a double set unofficial of sign of the times outtakes, some great things on there.
maybe an expanded version including dream factory will get the green light next.

Richard Harris

In terms of content this looks a pretty good set for the period in question and covers all the material from that era that I’d want. It does surprise me a little that, in terms of the cover and the “re-imagining” of NLMD, they’re focussing on the least successful and most derided phase of 83-88, not least by Bowie himself. I thought a Serious Moonlight shot might grace the cover. And I don’t think all of NLMD’s problems can be fixed just by re-recording and re-arranging: in terms of the songs the album nose-dives dramatically past the halfway point. Not even substituting the great Laurie Anderson for Mickey Rourke is likely to make Shining Star a neglected gem. And why stop at leaving Too Dizzy off when you can take off New York’s In Love as well?

Will be interested to see whether it’s a full Station to Station including intro on Serious Moonlight, rather than the shortened version on the VHS/DVD. And at least Glass Spider is represented here by a version that better represents the earlier stages of the tour, with All The Madmen and a wider selection of NLMD material than the Sydney VHS/DVD. So a decent effort Parlophone – have pre-ordered it from Amazon UK.

Javier

This is my least favourite Bowie era, and therefore this is the only box set so far that I’m going to buy. Of the three previous ones, I owned all the material. But here, I don’t own neither the Labyrinth songs, nor the two live albums, and I’m really intrigued with the new “Never let me down” (on the contrary, I could do without the remix of “Lodger”, being perfectly happy with the original album, and “The gouster” was a bit shilling the rubes, in my opinion…)

Oh, and the cover photo is fantastic, far better than the other three…

Kauwgompie

A few more thoughts. The cover of this box is all wrong. It’s a nice pic and absolutely beautiful but it has nothing to do with 80’s Bowie. Check the cover from “Welcome To The Blackout”. It’s the same hair and shirt. That look is Bowie’s late 70’s look, certainly not his 80’s look.
Also, there are no less than 5 versions of Bang Bang (album, 2018, live, vinyl edit and live again) and 4 of Loving The Alien (album, live, dub and remix edit (7″) on this box. ABang Bang is a very mediocre song to begin with. We do not need another vinyl edit that’s 15 seconds shorter than the album version but more period remixes!! Put the extended version of When The Wind Blows instead! Or any of the other missing 80’s mixes. Those vinyl edits and 7″ versions are a waste of space.

Phil

It is indeed, from Greg Gorman. You can find few pictures from the same session on Gettyimage.

Heinz

That cover-picture is from 1987,
so it has something to do with 80’s Bowie……:-)

Kauwgompie

Ok guys, I stand corrected. Thanks for the info!

Mick

We knew this was coming…
Aside from the omission of “Too Dizzy” (which really should have been included on Re:Call 4), this is a superb summary of that era of Bowie’s career.
As with the previous sets, I hesitate to buy the LP version of the box because of Parlophone’s nasty habit of later re-releasing titles on coloured vinyl (my preference).

Jim

By all means, if you feel the need to buy this, do so. BUT….as a huge Bowie fan from day one this seems excessive, bloated and HUGELY expensive even for obsessives. These album tracks (AND single edits AND extended versions AND remixes) are already readily available. And I’m fairly sure we can all agree that the only decent Bowie album from the 1980’s is ‘Let’s Dance’ – the ONLY thing I see here that I don’t already have is the ‘Extended Version’ of “Shake It” (a B-side which in its original form was already on side two of an album with only 8 tracks on it.) The live show I’ve seen and heard. I hate to use the phrase “Going Through the Motions” but that’s what I heard and saw twice in the US during that tour. Other than “Loving the Alien,” the ‘Tonight’ album is an overproduced basket of filler. If a remake of an Iggy Pop leftover from the 1970’s and a fluffy lite-reggae duet with Tina Turner (the Queen of Soulful Rock) are the only worthy mentions of an album, it’s a cause for concern. I won’t even mention ‘Never Let Me Down,’ as David himself disowned it immediately after its release. I don’t care who remixed, re-recorded or re-produced it. The songs are shite and no amount of gloss or grit (I’m not quite sure what sound they’re going for here) will salvage this pile. And the ‘Glass Spider’ concert (yes, I shelled out WAY too much for great seats for that one as well, and as blasphemous as this sounds, the openers Duran Duran were the highlight of that night) was visually exciting but another musical rote I regret paying well over 3 grand for (accounting for, of course, the transportation, the tickets, the meals, the hotels, etc.) Call me a cynic, but this REEKS of cash-in.

Michel Drolet
Daniel

Listening to thew new version of Zeroes now. Shut up and take my money!!! I’ve always said that NLMD was a brilliant album, just bad production and overcooked. This will be magnificent! The Bowie estate shoots and scores again.

I, for one, am leaping out of my skin about this set. This was my era of Bowie. I grew up in the ’70s, but came of age (clubbing etc etc) in the early ’80s. Let’s Dance and Tonight were big parts of that soundtrack.

There is a Bowie for everyone!

Geoff G.

Wow the Bang Bang live version single is included. That one was one of the hardest CD’s to find back in the day. I never found one for under a hundred dollars, so I never owned it. Glad to see the two Tina Turner duets appearing too. And thrilled to see never Let Me Down redone, as David wanted it, as we all did. And, so far Zeroes sounds good!

Anyway, this box set definitely has the most to offer out of the four box sets. They did a very good job with this one!

Darren Briscoe

USA price surprisingly steep….hope it comes down a bit!

voxstarstream

I suspect the reason for all the bonus content is Parlophone is well aware that this far from being Bowie’s best period, so in order to entice people to buy it they made certain to include a lot of extras and exclusives. I’m stopping with the first 3.

Rotem

BEST period of Bowie!

I’m surprised that so many people don’t really like it – it is usually those who got stuck in earlier musical period and expected their idols to keep making 70’s music in the 80’s or later.
I also wonder if they ever bothered to listen to his later work too.

Dan

Bowie hated that period too (he frequently said so) and felt he had lost his way – hence Tin Machine.

No one expected him to “keep making 70’s music” (though in Bowie’s case, does that mean Ziggy Stardust, Young Americans or Low? All completely different), but he made great music later on – Buddha of Suburbia, Outside, Heathen, The Next Day, Blackstar. Bowie set the bar high and 1982-1992 is just a very weak aberration in an otherwise superlative oeuvre.

Klaus

@Dan:

One last time for the record: There are obviously lots of people who really like what Bowie did in the 80s (including me) and constantly telling them that what they like is an aberration won’t make them think otherwise.
Btw, how comes you think that Ziggy Stardust, Young Americans and Low are all completely different (certainly true, i guess that also fits for Buddha, Heathen and Blackstar e.g.) but are not able to accept Let’s Dance, Never Let Me Down or Tin Machine which are all very different, too?

And that old “Bowie loathed that period himself” point: Who says that an artist is infallible when it comes to appreciate his or her own work?

Rant over.

Dean

Well, it’s all about opinions. But the best Bowie period? Far far from it. Easily the worst. His earlier work was magnificent, and his work from Tin Machine on was far better. IMO.

Hell, even Bowie didn’t rate much of what’s here…..

Klaus

Now i’m curious what “etc.” might be. ;-)

But nice turn Paul: Tell us what you like, not what you don’t.

MüllerMüller

I canˋt find „Shining Star 12inch Mix“ in my vinyl collection??

christian

It was not released at the time and this will be it’s first physical release.
It was added to a Never Let Me Down digital EP in May 2007.
By adding that track, other non-contemporary digital only releases such as Al Alba could now be considered as omissions from this set.

Klaus

“It was added to a Never Let Me Down digital EP in May 2007”.

As Paul wrote in the track listing. Sometimes to thoroughly read an article before commenting is really helpful.

L

When we get into the hundreds for these box sets, no matter who they are, I switch off. I can’t afford two week’s rent on that.

However, I’m waiting for them to tap into this prince-like archive Bowie supposedly had of unreleased songs. That’s more interesting to me like the 14 min version of Blackstar or the material that would have made up Volumes 2, 3, 4 etc of Outside. I’m sure Eno could have a go at polishing those up as he worked as collaborator and co-writer with him

Rajiv

There is a 1983 vinyl radio show “Supergroups – D.I.R. Broadcasting Corp.”, I am surprised they did not use this (soundboard) concert material for this box. It is a great radio show.
https://www.discogs.com/David-Bowie-Supergroups/release/7579166

Kauwgompie

I absolutely love this Bowie period. I know that conventional wisdom says that the 70’s were better but I love Bowie 80’s. That is when I discovered Bowie. I’m only slightly disappointed. The “Dance” album should have clearly been a 2 or 3 cd. Everything else I can live with. Missing remixes that could have been:

1. Tonight Dub
2. Dancing With The Big Boys Extended Dub Mix
3. Dancing In The Street Extended
4. Dancing In The Street Dub
5. When The Wind Blows Extended
6. When The Wind Blows Instrumental
7. Underground Dub
8. Underground Instrumental
9. Magic Dance Dance Mix
10. Magic Dance Dub
11. Bang Bang Live
12. Never Let Me Down Extended
13. Never Let Me Down Dub
14. Never Let Me Down Instrumental
15. Time Will Crawl Extended
16. Time Will Crawl Dub
17. Day In Day Out Extended
18. Day In Day Out Dub

We get 4 versions of Loving The Alien (Album, Live, Extended Dub, Re-mix edit) but only one from When The Wind Blows? Why not include the Extended Version? As far as I know there is no Dub/Acapella of Never Let me Down. There is a dub version and there is an acapella version, which one is on the box set?
And why do they give us these vinyl album edits on re:call and not more remixes? These Vinyl album edits are only marginally different whereas the missing remixes are much more different and therefore more worthwhile (in my book anyway).

Danny

I m totally agreed Kouwgompie!

Daniel ( from Berlin )

thank you kauwgompie!
good to see that we are more than only 10 people worldwide ( like tim said )
who likes the 80’s period and all these dub mixes and instrumentals.
they did a good job with the 70’s box ( as far as i know )
but this here is a big disappointment!
and most people that i know like only the “pop years” of bowie from the 80’s.

Kauwgompie

Thank you Danny and Daniel. I hope that Piet Blank reads this and that Blank & Jones can perhaps include some of the missing remixes on their next So80’s releases. Really too bad the Bowie estate and record label didn’t want to make the “Dance” album a double or triple cd. Could have been so beautiful. Why hide these remixes? But we are getting an overkill of 7″ versions and 45 and vinyl edits that are mostly uninteresting. They really missed the mark there.

Klaus

I’m quite certain that Piet Blank reads this thread but i would really be surprised if the Bowie estate would license anything to outsiders (sorry to put it that way Piet, but i think you know how it’s meant).

Kauwgompie

Klaus, China Girl was on So80s 3 and Let’s Dance was on So80s 4. Perhaps things have changed now Bowie has passed away but if they don’t even release these remixes on a very comprehensive Bowie 80’s box, I think Blank & Jones may have a chance to get a remix or two cleared for So80’s.

TOM RICHARDSON

Yep I agree about the missing mixes too Kauwgompie

Derek

The dub and acapella of Never Let Me Down have always been segued together and are presented as one track on digital downloads of the NLMD single. So the way they’ve done it here isn’t new. And the box is missing TWO Underground Instrumentals – the 7″ and 12″ instrumentals are different. The 7″ instrumental still has some gospel choir, while the 12″ instrumental does not. The 7″ one is a little shorter too. We’re also missing the Dancing In The Street instrumental and the edit of that track from the 12″ (not the same as the 7″ version). So, yeah, a 2 or 3 disc version of Dance would have been nice.