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Howard Jones / Human’s Lib and Dream Into Action super deluxe box sets

6-disc super deluxe editions • limited coloured vinyl • 3-disc deluxe sets


It’s funny to think that despite signing him originally and enjoying the fruits of his hit albums in the 1980s, Warners have never issued a deluxe edition of a Howard Jones album. Perhaps frustrated by the inaction, Jones took matters into his own hands about seven years ago and licensed his music from Warners and put out a series of box sets on his own dtox label. Last year the major sold Howard Jones’ catalogue to Cherry Red and the latter have finally announced what we all knew was coming: some very extensive reissues of the first two albums Human’s Lib (1984) and Dream Into Action (1985).

Two six-disc super deluxe editions of both long-players steal the headlines and these are very extensive indeed. They include remastered albums, all the remixes, unreleased rough mixes and demos, two DVDs, picture disc vinyl and in the case of the debut a “white tape replica pre-contract demo cassette containing remastered versions of four original demo tracks”. There are no 5.1 surround mixes which might be a disappointment, but more than enough extra/new material to make a purchase worthwhile. There was no video content at all on Howard’s own reissues but an abundance here, with TV appearances, promo videos and the like. The ‘Live In Japan’ concert is on DVD for the first time as part of the Human’s Lib super deluxe.

The Dream Into Action super deluxe edition box set


With four physical editions for EACH album, there’s certainly no shortage for choice. If you don’t want the enormous (and fairly expensive) super deluxe editions, then you can opt for 2CD+DVD digipaks. These cover the remastered albums, remixes and the DVDs with promo videos and TV appearances. The rarer audio (Farmyard Studio sesssions etc.) and concert DVDs are exclusive to the bigger boxes.

 Box sets include vinyl picture discs, but coloured vinyl available separately


Both super deluxe sets include vinyl picture discs, but each album is also available as a separate limited edition coloured vinyl LP. White vinyl for Human’s Lib and green vinyl for Dream Into Action. Combining coloured vinyl with 2CD+DVD digipak is certainly a decent alternative to the massive box sets and will cost you half the price. Single CD remasters are also available (but who ever buys them!?).

Both super deluxe sets come with replica tour programmes, album artwork lithographs, Howard Jones fan club ‘Risk’ membership cards and a set of four button badges.

These new Howard Jones reissues of Human’s Lib and Dream Into Action are released on 30 November 2018.


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Human’s Lib 3CD+2DVD+LP+Cassette Super Deluxe Edition

DISC ONE: (CD)

1. CONDITIONING
2. WHAT IS LOVE?
3. PEARL IN THE SHELL
4. HIDE & SEEK
5. HUNT THE SELF
6. NEW SONG
7. DON’T ALWAYS LOOK AT THE RAIN
8. EQUALITY
9. NATURAL
10. HUMAN’S LIB
11. CHINA DANCE
12. NEW SONG (PORTUGUESE 7″ SINGLE MIX)**
13. WHAT IS LOVE? (ROUGH MIX) *
14. DON’T PUT THESE CURSES ON ME (INSTRUMENTAL) *
15. HUMAN’S LIB (FARMYARD MIX) *
16. PEARL IN THE SHELL (ROUGH MIX) *
17. NEW SONG (MIX TAKE 1) *

DISC TWO: (CD)

1. NEW SONG (ALTERNATIVE 12″)
2. WHAT IS LOVE? (EXTENDED MIX)
3. HIDE & SEEK (EXTENDED VERSION)
4. PEARL IN THE SHELL (US 12″ MIX)
5. CONDITIONING (ORIGINAL MIX)
6. NEW SONG (NEW EXTENDED MIX) *
7. HUNT THE SELF (LIVE AT THE MARQUEE) *
8. BOUNCE RIGHT BACK (INSTRUMENTAL) *
9. TOTAL CONDITIONING *
10. LAW OF THE JUNGLE ***
11. ALWAYS ASKING QUESTIONS (ROUGH MIX) *
12. EQUALITY (ROUGH MIX) *
13. HIDE & SEEK (ROUGH MIX) *

DISC THREE: (DVD)

1. CONDITIONING (REHEARSAL AT THE GORDON ARMS, HIGH WYCOMBE)
2. HUMAN’S LIB (REHEARSAL AT THE GORDON ARMS, HIGH WYCOMBE)
3. EQUALITY (REHEARSAL AT THE GORDON ARMS, HIGH WYCOMBE)
4. RISK (LIVING ROOM DEMO)
5. DREAMS OF A BETTER PLACE (LIVING ROOM DEMO)
6. LOVE?(LIVING ROOM DEMO)
7. ALWAYS ASKING QUESTIONS (PROMO VIDEO)
8. NEW SONG (TOP OF THE POPS BROADCAST 22ND SEPTEMBER 1983)
9. WHAT IS LOVE? (TOP OF THE POPS BROADCAST 8TH DECEMBER 1983)
10. WHAT IS LOVE? (OXFORD ROAD SHOW BROADCAST ON 6TH JANUARY 1984)
11. HIDE AND SEEK (LIVE)(TOP OF THE POPS BROADCAST 8TH MARCH 1984)
12. EQUALITY (OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST BROADCAST 9TH MARCH 1984)
13. DON’T ALWAYS LOOK AT THE RAIN (OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST BROADCAST 9TH MARCH 1984)
14. PEARL IN THE SHELL (TOP OF THE POPS BROADCAST 7TH JUNE 1984)

PROMO VIDEOS
15. NEW SONG
16. WHAT IS LOVE?
17. HIDE AND SEEK
18. PEARL IN THE SHELL
19. LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU WELL (LONDON VERSION)

DISC FOUR: (PICTURE DISC LP)

SIDE ONE
1. CONDITIONING
2. WHAT IS LOVE?
3. PEARL IN THE SHELL
4. HIDE & SEEK
5. HUNT THE SELF

SIDE TWO
1. NEW SONG
2. DON’T ALWAYS LOOK AT THE RAIN
3. EQUALITY
4. NATURAL
5. HUMAN’S LIB

DISC FIVE: PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED AND REMASTERED TRACKS (CD)

1. NEW SONG (NEW FARMYARD MIX) *
2. ALWAYS ASKING QUESTIONS (FARMYARD MIX) *
3. EQUALITY (FARMYARD MIX) *
4. NEW SONG (NEW VERSION) ***
5. LOVE? (EARLY VERSION OF WHAT IS LOVE?) *
6. TAO TE CHING ***
7. CHANGE THE MAN ***
8. BOUNCE RIGHT BACK (LIVE AT THE MARQUEE) **
9. NEW SONG (EXTENDED)
10.IT JUST DOESN’T MATTER ***
11.DON’T ALWAYS LOOK AT THE RAIN (ROUGH MIX) *
12.NEW SONG (NEW MIX VERSION 2) *

KID JENSEN BBC SESSIONS
13.DON’T PUT THESE CURSES ON ME *
14.NATURAL *
15.NEW SONG *
16.HUMAN’S LIB *

* PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED
** PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED DIGITALLY
*** PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED REMASTERED

DISC SIX: CASSETTE

SIDE ONE
1. HUMAN’S LIB *
2. LOVE? *

SIDE TWO
1. RISK *
2. ALWAYS ASKING QUESTIONS *

* PREVIOUS UNRELEASED

DISC SEVEN: HOWARD JONES LIVE IN JAPAN (DVD)
1. NEW SONG
2. TAO TE CHING
3. HUNT THE SELF
4. PEARL IN THE SHELL
5. BOUNCE RIGHT BACK
6. HIDE & SEEK
7. ALWAYS ASKING QUESTIONS
8. DREAMS OF A BETTER PLACE
9. LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU WELL
10. EQUALITY
11. NATURAL
12. CONDITIONING
13.DON’T ALWAYS LOOK AT THE RAIN
14.WHAT IS LOVE?

Human’s Lib / limited white vinyl

SIDE ONE
1. CONDITIONING
2. WHAT IS LOVE?
3. PEARL IN THE SHELL
4. HIDE & SEEK
5. HUNT THE SELF

SIDE TWO
1. NEW SONG
2. DON’T ALWAYS LOOK AT THE RAIN
3. EQUALITY
4. NATURAL
5. HUMAN’S LIB

Human’s Lib 2CD+DVD Deluxe Edition

DISC ONE: (CD)

1. CONDITIONING
2. WHAT IS LOVE?
3. PEARL IN THE SHELL
4. HIDE & SEEK
5. HUNT THE SELF
6. NEW SONG
7. DON’T ALWAYS LOOK AT THE RAIN
8. EQUALITY
9. NATURAL
10. HUMAN’S LIB
11. CHINA DANCE
12. NEW SONG (PORTUGUESE 7″ SINGLE MIX)**
13. WHAT IS LOVE? (ROUGH MIX) *
14. DON’T PUT THESE CURSES ON ME (INSTRUMENTAL) *
15. HUMAN’S LIB (FARMYARD MIX) *
16. PEARL IN THE SHELL (ROUGH MIX) *
17. NEW SONG (MIX TAKE 1) *

DISC TWO: (CD)

1. NEW SONG (ALTERNATIVE 12″)
2. WHAT IS LOVE? (EXTENDED MIX)
3. HIDE & SEEK (EXTENDED VERSION)
4. PEARL IN THE SHELL (US 12″ MIX)
5. CONDITIONING (ORIGINAL MIX)
6. NEW SONG (NEW EXTENDED MIX) *
7. HUNT THE SELF (LIVE AT THE MARQUEE) *
8. BOUNCE RIGHT BACK (INSTRUMENTAL) *
9. TOTAL CONDITIONING *
10. LAW OF THE JUNGLE ***
11. ALWAYS ASKING QUESTIONS (ROUGH MIX) *
12. EQUALITY (ROUGH MIX) *
13. HIDE & SEEK (ROUGH MIX) *

DISC THREE: (DVD)

1. CONDITIONING (REHEARSAL AT THE GORDON ARMS, HIGH WYCOMBE)
2. HUMAN’S LIB (REHEARSAL AT THE GORDON ARMS, HIGH WYCOMBE)
3. EQUALITY (REHEARSAL AT THE GORDON ARMS, HIGH WYCOMBE)
4. RISK (LIVING ROOM DEMO)
5. DREAMS OF A BETTER PLACE (LIVING ROOM DEMO)
6. LOVE?(LIVING ROOM DEMO)
7. ALWAYS ASKING QUESTIONS (PROMO VIDEO)
8. NEW SONG (TOP OF THE POPS BROADCAST 22ND SEPTEMBER 1983)
9. WHAT IS LOVE? (TOP OF THE POPS BROADCAST 8TH DECEMBER 1983)
10. WHAT IS LOVE? (OXFORD ROAD SHOW BROADCAST ON 6TH JANUARY 1984)
11. HIDE AND SEEK (LIVE)(TOP OF THE POPS BROADCAST 8TH MARCH 1984)
12. EQUALITY (OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST BROADCAST 9TH MARCH 1984)
13. DON’T ALWAYS LOOK AT THE RAIN (OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST BROADCAST 9TH MARCH 1984)
14. PEARL IN THE SHELL (TOP OF THE POPS BROADCAST 7TH JUNE 1984)

PROMO VIDEOS
15. NEW SONG
16. WHAT IS LOVE?
17. HIDE AND SEEK
18. PEARL IN THE SHELL
19. LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU WELL (LONDON VERSION)

 

Human’s Lib single CD remaster

1. CONDITIONING
2. WHAT IS LOVE?
3. PEARL IN THE SHELL
4. HIDE & SEEK
5. HUNT THE SELF
6. NEW SONG
7. DON’T ALWAYS LOOK AT THE RAIN
8. EQUALITY
9. NATURAL
10. HUMAN’S LIB
11. CHINA DANCE

Dream Into Action 3CD+2DVD+LP Super Deluxe Edition

DISC ONE (CD)

1. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER
2. LIFE IN ONE DAY
3. DREAM INTO ACTION
4. NO ONE IS TO BLAME
5. LOOK MAMA
6. ASSAULT AND BATTERY
7. AUTOMATON
8. IS THERE A DIFFERENCE?
9. ELEGY
10. SPECIALTY
11. WHY LOOK FOR THE KEY
12. HUNGER FOR THE FLESH
13. BOUNCE RIGHT BACK
14. LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU WELL
15. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (REMAKE) *
16. LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU WELL (DEMO RECORDED IN HOWARD’S FRONT ROOM) *
17. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (THE LONG MIX) (JANICE LONG BBC SESSION) **

DISC TWO (CD):

1. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (SINGLE MIX)
2. LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU WELL (INTERNATIONAL REMIX)
3. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER (EXTENDED MIX)
4. LOOK MAMA (UK EXTENDED MIX) **
5. LIFE IN ONE DAY PT 1
6. LIFE IN ONE DAY PT 2
7. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (EXTENDED MIX)
8. LEARNING HOW TO LOVE *
9. BOOM BAP RESPITE ***
10. THE CHASE ***
11. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (LAMBS & PLANES MIX) *
12. BOUNCE RIGHT BACK (CAUSE & EFFECT REMIX)

* PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED
** PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED DIGITALLY
*** PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED REMASTERED

DISC THREE (DVD):

1. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST BROADCAST 29TH JANUARY 1985)
2. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER (OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST BROADCAST 29TH JANUARY 1985)
3. LOOK MAMA (OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST BROADCAST 29TH JANUARY 1985)
4. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER (TOP OF THE POPS BROADCAST 21ST FEBRUARY 1985)
5. LOOK MAMA (WOGAN BROADCAST 24TH APRIL 1985)
6. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (WOGAN BROADCAST 7TH MARCH 1986)

PROMO VIDEOS
7. LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU WELL (US VERSION)
8. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER
9. LOOK MAMA
10. LIFE IN ONE DAY
11. NO ONE IS TO BLAME
12. LIFE IN ONE DAY (ALTERNATE BROADCAST VERS.)

DISC FOUR: PICTURE DISC LP

SIDE ONE
1. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER
2. LIFE IN ONE DAY
3. DREAM INTO ACTION
4. NO ONE IS TO BLAME
5. LOOK MAMA
6. ASSAULT AND BATTERY

SIDE TWO
1. AUTOMATON
2. IS THERE A DIFFERENCE?
3. ELEGY
4. SPECIALTY
5. WHY LOOK FOR THE KEY
6. HUNGER FOR THE FLESH

DISC FIVE: THE FARMYARD SESSIONS PLUS UNRELEASED AND REMASTERED TRACKS (CD)

1. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER (EARLY VERSION) (FARMYARD SESSIONS)*
2. DREAM INTO ACTION (EARLY VERSION) (FARMYARD SESSIONS)*
3. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (EARLY VERSION) (FARMYARD SESSIONS)*
4. LOOK MAMA (EARLY VERSION) (FARMYARD SESSIONS)*
5. ASSAULT & BATTERY (EARLY VERSION) (FARMYARD SESSIONS)*
6. AUTOMATON (ROBOT MAN) (INSTRUMENTAL) (FARMYARD SESSIONS)*
7. IS THERE A DIFFERENCE? (EARLY VERSION) (FARMYARD SESSIONS)*
8. ELEGY (EARLY VERSION) (FARMYARD SESSIONS)*
9. SPECIALTY (EARLY VERSION) (FARMYARD SESSIONS)*
10. WHY LOOK FOR THE KEY? (EARLY VERSION) (FARMYARD SESSIONS)*
11. HUNGER FOR THE FLESH (EARLY VERSION) (FARMYARD SESSIONS)*
12. LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU WELL (ALTERNATIVE MIX)***
13. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER (REMIXED)*
14. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (TV MIX)*
15. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER (RADIO MIX)*
16. YOU JAZZY NORK!***

* PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED
*** PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED REMASTERED

DISC SIX: DVD

LAST WORLD DREAM – LIVE IN CONCERT
1. PEARL IN THE SHELL
2. YOU KNOW I LOVE YOU (DON’T YOU?)
3. LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU WELL
4. NO ONE IS TO BLAME
5. LIFE IN ONE DAY
6. LOOK MAMA
7. WILL YOU STILL BE THERE?
8. ALWAYS ASKING QUESTIONS
9. HIDE & SEEK
10. DREAM INTO ACTION
11. WHAT IS LOVE?
12. NEW SONG
13. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER

Dream Into Action limited edition coloured vinyl

SIDE ONE
1. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER
2. LIFE IN ONE DAY
3. DREAM INTO ACTION
4. NO ONE IS TO BLAME
5. LOOK MAMA
6. ASSAULT AND BATTERY

SIDE TWO
1. AUTOMATON
2. IS THERE A DIFFERENCE?
3. ELEGY
4. SPECIALTY
5. WHY LOOK FOR THE KEY
6. HUNGER FOR THE FLESH

Dream Into Action 2CD+DVD digipak deluxe

DISC ONE:

1. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER
2. LIFE IN ONE DAY
3. DREAM INTO ACTION
4. NO ONE IS TO BLAME
5. LOOK MAMA
6. ASSAULT AND BATTERY
7. AUTOMATON
8. IS THERE A DIFFERENCE?
9. ELEGY
10. SPECIALTY
11. WHY LOOK FOR THE KEY
12. HUNGER FOR THE FLESH
13. BOUNCE RIGHT BACK
14. LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU WELL
15. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (REMAKE) *
16. LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU WELL (DEMO RECORDED IN HOWARD’S FRONT ROOM) *
17. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (THE LONG MIX) (JANICE LONG BBC SESSION) **

DISC TWO:

1. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (SINGLE MIX)
2. LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU WELL (INTERNATIONAL REMIX)
3. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER (EXTENDED MIX)
4. LOOK MAMA (UK EXTENDED MIX) **
5. LIFE IN ONE DAY PT 1
6. LIFE IN ONE DAY PT 2
7. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (EXTENDED MIX)
8. LEARNING HOW TO LOVE *
9. BOOM BAP RESPITE ***
10. THE CHASE ***
11. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (LAMBS & PLANES MIX) *
12. BOUNCE RIGHT BACK (CAUSE & EFFECT REMIX)

* PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED
** PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED DIGITALLY
*** PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED REMASTERED

DISC THREE:

1. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST BROADCAST 29TH JANUARY 1985)
2. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER (OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST BROADCAST 29TH JANUARY 1985)
3. LOOK MAMA (OLD GREY WHISTLE TEST BROADCAST 29TH JANUARY 1985)
4. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER (TOP OF THE POPS BROADCAST 21ST FEBRUARY 1985)
5. LOOK MAMA (WOGAN BROADCAST 24TH APRIL 1985)
6. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (WOGAN BROADCAST 7TH MARCH 1986)

PROMO VIDEOS
7. LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU WELL (US VERSION)
8. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER
9. LOOK MAMA
10. LIFE IN ONE DAY
11. NO ONE IS TO BLAME
12. LIFE IN ONE DAY (ALTERNATE BROADCAST VERS.)

Dream Into Action single CD remaster

1. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER
2. LIFE IN ONE DAY
3. DREAM INTO ACTION
4. NO ONE IS TO BLAME
5. LOOK MAMA
6. ASSAULT AND BATTERY
7. AUTOMATON
8. IS THERE A DIFFERENCE?
9. ELEGY
10. SPECIALTY
11. WHY LOOK FOR THE KEY
12. HUNGER FOR THE FLESH
13. BOUNCE RIGHT BACK
14. LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU WELL

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Pedro

Once upon a time I had a copy of that demo cassette. I’d love to hear that again, but can’t believe it has been remastered only for it to appear on cassette again? Also, this remastered version only has 4 tracks on it, whereas mine had a fifth – “What Can I Say” – which was entirely different to the track of the same title on “The Very Best”.

Ralf

According to Amazon.de and jpc.de the release date has been moved to 14 DEC 2018.

eogan

The super deluxe sets have dropped to $97.64 on Amazon US (not the $113.99 the widgets are displaying). Import release date of 7th December.

gwynogue

Amazon Australia have just cancelled my “Dream Into Action” super-deluxe-edition, saying the supplier has informed them it’s no longer available. :(

Considering it’s release date is nearly 2 MONTHS away, cancelling my order seems a bit premature.

They didn’t mention my “Human’s Lib” order, or my order of Bowie’s “Loving The Alien” (CD) box, but they’re both showing as unavailable too.

elliott buckingham

judging by the price of humans lib standalone white vinyl currently £53 on amazon it must be limited to about 10 copies

Griffin

Okay, I took out the “questionable” part of my comment. I was trying to make a point. I’m willing to pay but I don’t want all th3 other crap. Why do they always want us to get the vinyl. Just make it a 3CD (with the remixes CD) with/without the DVD I will buy it. And my discount suggestion is a good idea I think. Not posting my comment would be a loss (hahaha)

My original comment minus the unapproved part:
I still don’t get why the people only want the CD contents have to pay for the vinyl or cassette we don’t/have the possibility to pay them. Just make a 3CD+DVD. And 50% discount voucher for people who wants to buy the vinyl. Or if you order them both together on their site you will get the discount (50% on the vinyl) in the cart/basket. Then everybody is happy. I had already bought the Dtox boxes with bonus CD’s with 12” mixes. Now I will buy them again. Do they really think people will pay the extra for something they don’t want (vinyl/cassette) just for a few missing tracks? I think it’s quite stupid for forcing people not to buy their product while they are willing to pay if they offer the contents on CD.

4. NEW SONG (NEW VERSION) ***
5. LOVE? (EARLY VERSION OF WHAT IS LOVE?) *
9. NEW SONG (EXTENDED)
11.DON’T ALWAYS LOOK AT THE RAIN (ROUGH MIX) *
12.NEW SONG (NEW MIX VERSION 2) *

12. LIKE TO GET TO KNOW YOU WELL (ALTERNATIVE MIX)***
13. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER (REMIXED)*
14. NO ONE IS TO BLAME (TV MIX)*
15. THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER (RADIO MIX)*

Griffin

Yeah, of course. It’s your site so it’s your call. But if you had post a comment that mine wasn’t approved i would have amended it. Or you can take the part out you’re now comfortable with.

I’m saying it out loud because I wanted the record companies to know/realise (other people still will do it quietly). It’s not that people want to download illegally. It’s them forcing people to. They cannot assuming we/fans will let them going their way keep milking us off. How long was it ago with the Dtox boxes? And now again we have to buy things again. Okay, because I want them I’m willing to pay. But I just don’t want to pay for all other stuff I don’t need (vinyl/cassette/etc) and the shipping would be much higher as well. I’m crazy but I’m not THAT crazy to pay so much for a few tracks.

Matteo Barbieri

Totally agree!

Griffin

Is my comment still not approved? Or just skipped your attention?

Andy

I would have prefered a 3CD-Set instead of 2CD + DVD.

Neil

Yes i think most people feel the same way and having to spend £90 + to get the third CD’s is shameful.

Murray

Human’s lib vinyl now gone up to 49 pounds on Amazon Uk! Who is going to buy it at that price point?

Jed

Yep it’s crazy. At one time I would killed for all that HJ material now I am just feel meh about it. l’ll content myself with all the original vinyl, picture discs, double packs, RISK releases, etc, including Like To Get To Know You Well on six different coloured sleeves FFS,

Peter Bates

I’ve got a brilliant orchestral version of Hide & Seek that was on the B side of a later HJ 12” but can’t for the LIFE of me see it listed anywhere here – I’m not imagining it, am I? :)

Neil

This was discussed further down the comments here. If it’s going to appear on anything it will be on the reissue of One To One as that’s when it was recorded and was the b side to You Know I Love You…Don’t You?

blink

It was part of his Dtox box for One to One, Cross that Line and In the Running. Not sure where else it is on.

Jed

12″ and Cassette of Little Bit of Snow I think.

Mauro

Price as always out of any logic.

Steve F

Will wait for the price to go down on the Amazon pre-order for these… but the Super Deluxe Edition Box Sets version of these 2 wonderful albums are an absolute MUST HAVE for me. The Bonus Contents on both is, frankly, absolutely f*cking outstanding! Howard is one of the true genius finds of the 80’s… the stuff he writes now is just as brilliant as the “hits” that caught everyone’s ears when he was in the UK Top 40. A genuinely talented musician and songwriter… let’s applaud him for agreeing to allow the enormous amount of Bonus Contents to be released… a number of other artists should take note. Thanks as always for bringing these releases to my attention Paul. Very much appreciated #LoveSuperDeluxeEditionWebsite

elliott buckingham

worth getting if you didn’t pick up the detox boxsets might pick up the coloured vinyl sets

SimonP

Disappointed that I have to stump up for an unwanted picture disc, but I’ll probably get Humans Lib at some point. Oddly, it’s an album I’ve never bought or even heard, despite owning every single off it!

Ken Gillespie

I’m surprised no one has mentioned the live VHS release ‘like to get to know you well’ from the ‘Human’s Lib’ period not being included in the super deluxe. Keen to own the Live in Japan DVD, but I would have enjoyed seeing that one again.

Shane

If you want to ban the cylinder 8track comments you should do the same with the 5.1 comments. They are as relevant to an early 80s pop album as a 2018 album issued on cassette. Also you know that the resurgence of 8tracks is around the corner. We all do.

Dave H

Some of the best 5.1 surround reissues have been from the 80’s due to the use of bigger multi-tracks, sequencers, samplers etc. The more to come the better meanwhile check out these if you can find them:

Dire Straits Brothers In Arms (SACD)
Depeche Mode Some Great Reward (CD/DVD-A)
Roxy Music Avalon (SACD)
INXS Kick (CD/Blu-ray)
Metallica Metallica (DVD-A)
Simple Minds Once Upon A Time (Blu-ray)
Toto Toto IV (SACD)
Any Steve Wilson remixed reissue!

Kauwgompie

Shane, you work for Cherry Red?

Michael G

Don’t know why anybody would want to buy these box sets,Nazareth and to a certain point Wishbone Ash have done selling their music,so much better.

Paul Taylor

I fully understand people’s aversion to vinyl/CD + tat/trinkets bundles on account of cost. I probably have fewer of them than the fingers on one hand, although the ones I have I really like (Love 50th, Ramones 1st & New Of The World 40th).
I have ordered the Nazareth box which in my opinion is an almost perfect mix AND price – the vinyl content being a picture disc of one album, unreleased version of another, two unreleased live albums and a handful of custom 7″ singles. Then to add every album on CD plus some interesting memorabilia for just over £100 is perfect. I know not every artist can do that but hats off to Nazareth for doing their best to achieve the perfect package!

william

I would like to get the super deluxe versions of these, but the prices have to come down quite a bit for me to do that. Hopefully they will come down that is.

Neil Kelly

These were of course announced on the 5th September.
I won’t be buying them on release because if i’m honest…
1. DVD not Blu ray
2. Stuff missing
3. I want all the Audio content and i’ve waited decades for that Japan concert but the SDE is far too expensive.
4. The Deluxe versions are SO much cheaper but don’t include stuff i want in point 3.
IMO these releases are a real mess. Could’ve / should’ve been so much better.
I just wanted the 3CD, 2DVD (prefably Blu ray) with nothing missing for 39.99. Too much to ask for i guess.

Martin

Ordered the vinyl and will try the box sets as a deal at some point thanks

dazzler

I’m not a fan of expensive superdeluxe editions. I hoped that the 2CD+DVD edtions would focus on all the commercially released tracks. It’s a pity that the b-sides Change The Man, It Just Doesn’t Matter and Tao Te Ching are only available on the superdeluxe box. I can’t find the well known 12″ Album mixes of Always Asking Questions and New Song. Not Sure if Total Condtioning is the 7 or 8 minute version. Is the 7″ LP version of What Is Love included in the tracklist of Human’s Lib or did they stick with the 12″ CD version? If they followed the CD tracklist with the 12″ version, that version will be on the box twice. So the 2CD+DVD release of Human’s Lib is a bit of a disappointment. The 2CD+DVD release of Dream Into Action has everything I want. But they made it look like a mess throwing all that bonus material random on the discs. I just can’t understand why some of the never before released rarities are added to the original album on the first disc (that will be sold as a single release as well) and some nice bonus tracks people collected once on vinyl are tucked away on the superdeluxe formats.

Gareth Pugh

Hi Dazzler. The standalone 1-disc release isn’t the same as Disc 1 of the 2CD+DVD sets; the standalone 1 CD releases just contain what the original CDs at the time had (albeit remastered) – so on Human’s Lib you’ll get China Dance by way of an extra track and in Dream you obviously get LTGTKYW and Bounce Right Back but not the rarities included on the CD 1 of the Belize and super deluxe editions. Hope that helps.

chrispy

Hi dazzler – I have just received the Human’s Lib box, and while it is very nice, you were unfortunately correct about the duplication of “What Is Love? (Extended Mix)”. It appears on the first disc as part of the album, and then again on the second disc’s extended and alternate mixes. No where, it seems can one find the actual, original LP / 7″ mix on the entire set, bizarrely. On the previous set from 2011 (the Dtox records box) there was a similar duplication of What Is Love?’s extended mix on the album and then again on the “The 12″ Album” included therein. I find this a little underwhelming, as I do prefer the shorter mix with the tighter arrangement and less of the instrumental break present, but the set is otherwise really very nicely done and is actually quite beautifully put together.

John

What no 8-track?

Josh

Yes, please!

-SG-

Amen to that. It was never that funny to begin with.

Mike the Fish

I’m not a fan of downloads(so disposable) but I don’t think Cherry Red do Spotify. I’m not interested in Human’s Lib, but I’m keen to hear the alternate New Song and Always Asking Questions tracks. Dream Into Action holds significantly more interest for me, but like others I’d want the three CDs but not enough to pay for that deluxe set for them though. Warners were managing three CDs, one DVD (incl 5.1) and vinyl for around fifty quid. I get people being annoyed by vinyl putting up the price of a set, but making it a picture disc on top of that… and I get that it’s kind of a deluxe thing to have a trinket like that there but it’s not only double dipping, it’s double dipping with even lower sound quality. So for trinkets it ticks a box, for actual audio content it seems a needless extra expense.

Kauwgompie

I could not agree more with the many comments here. The lack of 5.1 is a deal breaker. We have all bought these albums at least twice (original vinyl, cd and I also got the Dtox box sets). If I’m going to buy it again, it needs a 5.1 version of the album plane and simple otherwise there simply isn’t enough to pull me in. Cherry Red and Edsel never release anything 5.1. It must be too expensive for them to commission a 5.1 mix, or so they think. If regular labels do it and make money, why can’t the reissue labels, no matter how lame they are?

Tim Joseph

Cherry Red have released 5.1s by Barclay James Harvest, Tony Banks, Anthony Phillips – and that’s just off the top of my head…

Kauwgompie

Yes that is true, they did do a few. Very few.

Steven Roberts

These reissue companies never learn, do they? Time and again details get published here of the latest boxset, and time and again people complain:-

“where’s the 5.1?”
“why are you making me buy vinyl and/or cassette as well?”
“where are all the b-sides?”
“why not blu-ray instead of DVD?”
Etc.

Sorry to say, I predict that in six months time (maybe less) these HJ** super deluxe boxes will be at least half the price that they are being pitched at now.

You know – like the Peter Gabriel, the Roxy Music, the Kylie…..

**And I’m speaking as a fan – just not a £100-a-time fan…

Steven Roberts

My point exactly :)

Kauwgompie

Cherry Red does ok (sort of) reissue’ing regular albums but they don’t know how to put an SDE of an album together if their life depended on it. The cheapness of Cherry Red is all over these box sets and it ruins them. Once you license this stuff to Cherry Red, any hopes of a decent box set are gone. Lets throw everything that we have in a box set; cd, dvd, vinyl and cassettes, then add a cd of unreleased early versions that no one is interested in except the über fans, and call it a day. And whatever we do, let’s NOT spend any money on giving the fans what they want, like a 5.1 mix of the album. Then overprice it because the über fans will buy it anyway. Cherry Red’s money is on the reissues of the regular cd or vinyl and the 2cd/dvd. They just threw these box sets together, probably produce very few of them because they are only for über fans. If they did produce a lot, we can find them in a deal alert soon enough.

Ryk

While I agree these should be half the price (so will be waiting for a deal), I do not have any other complaints. I actually prefer the CD/Vinyl mix sets (I have all but the last Fleetwood Mac ones), and I play both formats (download too, on occasion), and having them bundled together would be much less expensive than if I had to buy them each separately.

Jan

Humans Lib still not including ‘What Can I Say’ from the live single with What Is Love 12″? Pity, great song.

Glenn

Yes, the priority should always be everything commercially issued at the time. If I am investing in a SDE box set my expectation is that I can offload my existing CDs and vinyl related to the release.

Chris Squires

Or the balancing act happens in your future orders rather than your collection. I haven’t sold anything since I started rebuilding seriously 12 years ago, a rebuilding inspired by Aerial. To fund HoJo I cancelled Nazareth and to fund Breaking Bad I got rid of Billy Idol and REM and finally to afford League of Gentlemen I ditched the Imagine SDE (probably just kicked to can down the road). I have to set myself a pre-order budget per month and a lot of shuffling follows.

Gareth Pugh

Lots of food for thought on this thread thus weekend. I guess there is two ways of looking at this – some would be pleased that a super deluxe set contains everything they had previously bought, to have it allspruced up and in one place. But where you have sets like this coming only a few years after previous expanded sets (the DTox boxes), there might be some who don’t mind that some of the tracks from those (the Risk disc live tracks from first copies of the 2011 HL/DIA DTox art; the Look Mama Megamamamix) are not here partly because they’ve got there, and perhaps so they feel their investment in those sets isn’t now entirely invalidated. I notice in most cases that when the PSBs have compiled heritage stuff into later sets, they have a tendency to leave one or two tracks from a given earlier release *not* duplicated, so the original purchase remains (in a way) worthwhile; nor as an investment to sell on, necessarily, but just that they’ve still got some added (listening) value from that original spend. Then again, others could equally validly argue it means newer reissue projects are incomplete.

Neil

I certainly won’t be buying these box sets with all that tat like vinyl and cassettes which are useful as an ashtray on a motorbike to most people nowadays. The 2CD+DVD versions i won’t be buying either unless they drop below £20 and i echo what a few people have said here they should have been 3 CD sets.

Simon

Whilst I agree that CD-vinyl combo sets fall between two stools (the only one I own is Fleetwood Mac’s Rumours SDE which I got very cheap) I do disagree that vinyl is no use to anyone.

I bought my first 7″ singles in the early 80s with saved-up pocket money (Too Shy by Kajagoogoo was the first) and never really stopped buying it. The last was the 4-disc, ahem, actually 5-disc, Kamasi Washington masterpiece Heaven & Earth. I like the format and enjoy seeking out great vinyl bargains.

I buy CDs, blu-raysand download (where no other option is on offer) too. No cassettes though.

If the price on these drops I will be in there, though the vinyl will remain unplayed as I have the originals to scratch that itch with.

This moan is not meant to single you out Neil but I do find it bloody annoying when people make pronouncements like yours just because it not something they want. I don’t want cassettes but I don’t give a flying one if other folk do…

Neil

The point i was making was if people want vinyl or cassettes that’s fine release them individually instead of dumping them in a box set to bump the price up it’s not much to ask is it ?

unique

i was just listening to both these albums last week. humans lib was one of the first albums i got into when i was back at school starting to get into music seriously. i got both albums as tape copies from the old days of tape to tape playground sharing, so £200 for a couple of albums that fitted on a D90 is a bit much, even if it is a nice set of audio. the LP and tape bundling is unnecessary really and pushing the price right up by doing that will put a number of people off, when instead they could have offered those things separately and had a cheaper CD set that would probably sell more, and those who didn’t upgrade to a cd player can stick with the tape

i am looking forward to hearing all the rare versions, and even getting to see the old tv stuff on video, it’s a really nice set of media. i’ve got some of the old 12″s still so don’t think i’m missing the named mixes (which may be on some prior cd releases)

it’s strange that after the hits and TOTP success of these albums he just dissappeared into obscurity, same with adam ant after apollo 9 and puss in boots. they were 2 of the biggest UK pop acts of the 80s. adam seems more remembered due to his makeup but howard jones just doesn’t get the same mentions in pop culture tv shows and movies

Tyrone

Nice post!
I was also hitting my teens – the intro to What Is Love + Human Racing (Kershaw) played a part in getting me into moody synth.
Just last week I set up a fully analog- keyboard, synth module and MIDI sequencer and stepped away from the PC. Damn – anyone who could master this MIDI sequencing in the early 80’s must had been clever. The music sounded space age because it was, in fact – rocket science!

I will be getting the super deluxe’s. A very welcome release.

If these a successful we might enjoy an 80’s re-surge.
Ty

Thomas Allen

Wish Howard did get more attention. Saw him live last year with OMD. He was excellent! He hasn’t missed a beat, still fabulous. Felt like I was fifteen again. Made me wish I still had my trench coat.

Mikey-D

Fantastic! Love these two albums although i go back and forth which one I like better. There are enough tanks to push me to the super deluxe, i just need to find a friend to buy the LPs of me and I’m golden. Long live the 80s!

DAF

Isn’t the album version of “What Is Love” the same as the Extended Mix? Where’s the 7″ version? Some key remixes and b-sides missing. Are the DVDs region free?

Doug

The sticker in the first picture (of Human’s Lib front cover) at the top of the post says “NTSC Region Free”

DAF

Thank you. I (obviously) didn’t spot that.

Stephen K

Many pleasant surprises here, very exciting, a fabulous product, but these sort of deluxe “comprehensive” sets will always be judged by what is left out.

Heartbreaking that it doesn’t include:

Look Mama (Megamamamix)
Dream Into Action (Live at the Manchester Apollo on March 15th, 1985)
Pearl In The Shell (Extended Mix)
Hide And Seek (Live at the High Wycombe Town Hall)

I assume Howard Jones recorded more than one song for Janice Long’s show?

Wondering if the Human’s Lib album will have the “Single Version” of What Is Love that was on the original UK LP (the CD used the Extended Version)… the Extended Version is already listed with the other remixes on Disc 2.

I might have put the material from the No One Is To Blame single on a One To One reissue. since the re-recorded version was a bonus track on the One To One CD.

Damon Suttle

Pearl In The Shell (Extended Mix) was on the 12″ album so there’s no reason to include it here when it wasn’t released on a 12″ single.

xymox97o

Also missing – Hide & Seek exclusive orchestral version available on You Know I Love You (2 x 12″) and Little Bit Of Snow (12″).
Its really his best single release and should have been included in the deluxe set.

musicoloog

The orchestral version(s) of “Hide And Seek” should be on the ‘One To One’ (Super Deluxe Edition) as it is a recorded and released version during that ‘era’.

Perhaps we have to encourage Cherry Red to produce a (Super) Deluxe Edition of the 1986 album “One To One” as well…

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One To One (Super Deluxe Edition)

CD1 – Original album:
1. You Know I Love You…Don’t You?
2. The Balance Of Love (Give And Take)
3. All I Want
4. Where Are We Going?
5. Don’t Want To Fight Anymore
6. Step Into These Shoes
7. Will You Still Be There?
8. Good Luck, Bad Luck
9. Give Me Strength
10. Little Bit Of Snow

CD2 – Singles, b-sides and versions:
1. All I Want (Extended Version) 6:23
2. You Know I Love You… Don’t You? (Dance In The Field Mix) 7:17
3. Roll Right Up 4:48
4. Dig This Well Deep 4:33
5. Let It Flow 3:47
6. Will You Still Be There? (New Version) 4:37
7. All I Want (US 7” Edit) 3:58
8. You Know I Love You … Don’t You? (Live Version) 3:09
9. Hide And Seek (Orchestral Version) 7:09
10. Hunger For The Flesh (Orchestral Version) 4:57
11. Will You Still Be There? (Acoustic) 4:44
12. Look Mama (U.S. Extended Mix) 6:20
13. You Know I Love You… Don’t You? (Instrumental) 5:58

CD3 – Risk Disc fanclub singles, promo edits and interview:
1. New Song (Live | 1984) 6:27
2. Don’t Look Always On The Rain (Live | 1984) 2:34
3. Pearl In The Shell (Live | 1985) 5:14
4. Things Can Only Get Better (Live | 1985) 4:53
5. Look Mama (Live | 1986) 4:10
6. Life In One Day (Live | 1986) 7:25
+
7. All I Want (Edit Of LP Version) 4:07
8. You Know I Love You … Don’t You? (Edit Of LP Version) 3:45
9. Will You Still Be There? (US/Canada 7” Edit) 4:10
10. Hide And Seek (Orchestral Edit) 6:28
+
11. Interview (Parts 1+2) [taken from ‘All I Want’ 2×7”]

CD4 – demos and rarities

DVD – Performances and promotional videos
+
vinyls, cassettes, badges, photographs, replica of tourbook, et cetera…

xymox970

I disagree.

Its originally a 1983 song and an early 1984 single release, so it should have been on the debut album.
Does that mean in your opinion that the (also) missing legendary live version of Hide & Seek from Live Aid 85 should be on the Dream Into Action album, since it was performed around the time of that album release?

musicoloog

Everybody has its right to disagree, to have his own opinion. :-)

But indeed regarding the missing Live Aid versions… I think not all versions of a certain track should be put on the Deluxe Edition of the album where the original version is on. “What Is Love? (Trouser Enthusiasts Club Mix)”, mixed and released 2001, should be on ‘Human’s Lib’ as well? U2 made once the mistake to put new ‘stompin`’ remixes of the classic “New Year’s Day” in between ‘old’ tracks on their Deluxe Edition of the album ‘War’.

Thanks for reminding me of the Live Aid versions, I’ve completely forgotten that performance…

Gareth Pugh

Hi xymox970. Really good discussion point you raise. Personally, I’m in the camp that prefers a super-deluxe/expanded release to reflect the era of the album’s release at that point in the artist’s career. In other words, taking the PSBs for example – if they were ever to release super deluxe sets of their albums (we all thought Please box was on the way but no sign as yet…), I’d expect the contemporary (of the time) 1985 mixes of West End Girls to be on such a set. But they’ve dusted WEG down a few times and remixed it for various singles down the years (1993 on I Wouldn’t Normally Do This Kind of Thing; 2004 on the Flamboyant single; then 2010 on Together). I’d rather those were compiled onto the relevant studio album (or nearest studio album) of the single they accompanied. Otherwise, if they put all subsequently released versions (mixes, live versions from much later tours) of an early single ‘rooted back’ to the parent album the basic song first saw light of day on, for lots of longevity acts, you’d have massively heavily weighted sets for the early albums but slim pickings left for later albums that used new versions of old hits as singles bonus tracks. Nightlife and Release singles relied a bit on live versions of 80s hits – we’d get a fat Please box for sure, but then a Nightlife box would end up thin.

Howard's Vegetarian Dog

My original vinyl of 1 to 1 is the poorest quality vinyl in my entire collection. The grooves are so shallow it jumps all over the place despite my TT being set up correctly. It’s hardly played and looks like it’s been frisbeed. Nick Kershaw’s Radio Musicola is of a similar quality and was released with a day of 1 to 1.

Neil

It will probably be on the reissue of One To One as that’s when it was recorded.

Derek Langsford

I have the remastered DTox sets with the “Risk” discs and the Very Best of 2 CD collection with the b-sides. Seems like there’s a lot of overlap and not much else extra other than demos, sessions, and live recordings.

But for me the presence of unwanted vinyl (and cassette – what are the labels thinking?) combined with a lack of 5.1 mix kills both boxed sets for me. I would have bought even with vinyl if there was a 5.1 mix (I have all the Fleetwood Mac sets), but no 5.1 nixes any deal I can make with myself.

I’ll perhaps get the 2CD+DVD sets if the remasters are notably better, but as I have said elsewhere, the DTox remasters are pretty darned good already.

So I agree with Mathew, despite the effort made by Howard and Cherry Red, I am disappointed because it doesn’t deliver what I need to make it a worthwhile purchase.

Brad

It looks like the original “What Is Love?” may be back in its proper place instead of them pasting in the extended version yet again. I don’t understand why even the Dtox sets used the extended version.

Chris

I feel that this is a huge disappointment and a real let down, especially for cd collectors. I have no urge or need for vinyl or cassettes. Oddly enough, I wouldn’t mind the replica tour programmes, lithographs, Risk membership, and 4 badges.

For any true or loyal fan of HoJo, which I am indeed, both of these super deluxe versions are a waste of time and money. I already own his B sides and all 3 Dtox sets, minus the live 3rd Risk disc, bummer. I was extremely stoked and excited to purchase both sets, especially after Howard’s endorsement of rarities. One disc of rarities does not even come close to condoning a 90 pound price tag!

I wonder to myself, as I did with the Yazoo box set (on cd) why bother. I have more than enough of both of theses artists than I will ever need. The well has run dry and there really is barely anything left in the vaults from either artist to even remotely interest me. Let me assure you, as a completist I would purchase all 3 box sets if it was even close to good value for my money.

I am starting to realize that my collecting days are coming to an end, and I am very curious to know who this market is geared towards. I have read comments about thoroughness regarding these sets, and to that end I say hogwash. Give us something remotely new or enticing or just let sleeping dogs listen to their cherished collections.

At these prices all I can say is the last purchases worth my hard earned dollars have been the Dead or Alive and Blancmange sets. At least they contained mostly cds for those of us who don’t just collect everything but the kitchen sink and the same old stuff remastered again and again.

I can appreciate those who had not collected the Dtox sets having interest in these, but other than that, I see absolutely no purpose in these completely over priced and self indulgent sets.

Rant over, just my 2 pennies

Thank you Paul as always, for your stupendous work!

Mathew Lauren

Not a huge fan, but hirez 5.1+ mixes would have made this a buy and a welcome addition to the surround-sound (music) library. Yes, Paul, a bit of a disappointment.

tosh

LP . DVD , CD who wants 3 versions of the same thing on these sill;y box sets & why no VHS , mindisc & 78 shellac
I don’t think we got any “gramophones” here, granddad.

James

Actually, I DO buy single CD remasters sometimes. Not everyone is interested in extras. Sometimes the original album is enough. Evidently, the record labels think it’s worth it so i’m not alone. Each to their own. At least we’re given the choice and i’d never criticise anyone’s individual choice as music is a personal thing.

Paul English

The live tracks from the DTox box aren’t on the new sets. Pity.

Mic Smith

Wasn’t there a 10” with a live piano version of Hide and Seek? I can’t see that one listed.

cdmaniac

These were day one pre-orders (big boxes) when they finally posted on Amazon. Cant wait!

Peter Piazza

Does anybody know why white vinyl is £4.42 more expensive than green vinyl?

David White

Great looking box sets … let’s hope the prices go down
One noticeable omission was the Version of Hide and Seek on the 10″ release. This was a live version of the song on the A side, with just Howard playing with a piano keyboard

Despite all the various formats released back in ’84 for the single Hide and Seek failed to make the UK top 10!

Kurtis

Sometimes the source is not available.

Gareth Pugh

Kurtis, you’ve probably put your finger on it – that was certainly the reason, back in 2012, why the full-length 8 min version of Total Conditioning wasn’t on the 12″ Album remaster box set from DTox – Howard’s management said they simply could not find the master tape in the Warner vault and they didn’t want to resort to vinyl-rips (e.g. they could have ripped it from a UK 12″ of Pearl in the Shell)and all the quality limitations that brings. I will be interested to see if the Total Conditioning on this set is now a vinyl rip of the 8 min original or the 6-min-somethign version from The 12″ Album. It’s a pity, because the trimmed minute has some really nice stuff that’s otherwise lost, it not being a ‘copy-paste’ kind of mix.

Schu

So for the cassette demos it looks like two of these may be on the DVD (Risk, Love? – Living Room Demos) but the other two (Human’s Lib, Always Asking Questions) are not on any of the digital media? If this is the case, I’m not a real fan of having to digitize analog only content.

Gareth Pugh

In fairness, the cassette has a *bit* of context that maybe justifies why it is in that format; it is a replica of an actual ‘historical artefact’ from Howard’s history, namely the tape that helped get him his Warners deal (from which all else that these sets collate and celebrate flowed) – so the tape is described as ‘white’ (presumably the shell?) and the ‘Howard Jones?’ and keyboard artwork are replicated. It’s not just on cassette because it’s a random choice or of format, or Howard and co being obtuse! It’s a facsimile really and meant to be a nice ‘time travel’ trinket. But I totally agree, I’d want to think we’re getting the tracks in some other, more accessible way too. Hoping the boxes have a download card/code for those cassette tracks, therefore, but nothing’s been said on that front.

Howard's Vegetarian Dog

If you can be bothered hook up your tape player to your PC and digitise the tracks with Audacity! I’ve done it with Cassette singles (before all the tracks were released in expanded editions) and some vinyl. It is a faff but also quite satisfying. The sound is OK but if course is only ever going to be as good as the source. As you can mess about with the levels you can pretend you are George Martin or whoever!

Mark

Why cassette vinyl and dvd but no 8-track in the set?

Kauwgompie

Look Mama (Megamama Mix) and Pearl In The Shell (Extended Mix) are missing. Pearl In The Shell US 12″ is there but not the regular extended version. Both are on the 12″ Album/Action Replay box (on disc 3 “Risk – Specially Selected Remixes Remastered”).
Alternatively, we get 8 (!) versions of “No One Is To Blame” not even including the DVD’s. This is expensive given that the DVD’s (why not Blu-Ray?) are not in 5.1 and there is no surround sound version of the album. Very disappointing but Cherry Red and Edsel just don’t do surround sound.
I bought the 12″ Album/Action Replay/Risk box a while ago and they sound great. There is no real value into buying these new boxes as there is no surround sound and the only unreleased songs are early rough mixes & demos. Perhaps a treasure box for some but nothing really enticing for me. Also, as mentioned here many times before, why include vinyl in a CD/DVD box? It just makes it unnecessarily expensive. I know vinyl is the latest cat’s meow but if I wanted vinyl, I would buy a vinyl box. I’ll wait for a Deal Alert. I think there aren’t many Deal Alerts on Cherry Red boxes but we’ll see. Not paying $120 for an extra disc of rough mixes/demos etc.

-SG-

I think the material on Human’s Lib is heavier, thus more expensive, or perhaps HOJO is just sticking it to you because he can, but no one, noooo one, no one ever is to blame.

Guy

What about the negative side?!

Mike the Fish

The extended mix of Pearl is just an edit of the U.S. promo mix.

Hide And Seek

Yeessss again !! Thanks for the links. Ordered the 2 boxes and 2 vinyls, the latter of which will pair nicely with the gold BPI LP award disc hung proudly on my wall. Looking forward to the intimate meet and greet gig in November.

RJS

“pair nicely with the gold BPI LP award disc hung proudly on my wall”

Were you awarded it or did you buy it? If you did buy it, “proudly” seems like an odd choice of word. Nonetheless, hope you enjoy the reissues. The only HJ I ever bought was the 12″ album on cassette.

J T

I don’t see what’s odd about pride of ownership for a rare limited collectable from a favorite artist, whether what you’ve bought at auction or from a shop is a print of a famous painting or a certification award for a popular record.

To flip the construct, odd would be hanging something on your wall that you were ashamed of.

Although perhaps oddest of all is coming into a thread with only a passing interest about the subject matter and then posting a criticism aimed at deflating someone’s pride over what they’ve got hanging on their wall. Especially considering that the whole point of deluxe physical releases of music (to say nothing of a website devoted to same) is that there are thousands of people who (in most cases already have much of the music in question and yet also) get enjoyment out of placing collectible box sets on their shelves.

Hide And Seek

@ J T
Thanks for the logical comments

Hide And Seek

@RJS

“Were you awarded it or did you buy it? If you did buy it, “proudly” seems like an odd choice of word. ”

If fans weren’t proud of their music memorabilia, they wouldn’t display it, irrelevant of whether it was personally given to them, won or purchased. Mmm. I have a signed poster of the artist but because 100 were signed i’m not entitled to “proudly” display it on my wall. “Odd” is questioning fans’ entitlement to that. Thanks.

I was always disappointed the 12″ album didn’t include the standard 12″ version of New Song.

Aside of track omissions others point out regarding definitive completeness, i’m keeping my fingers crossed that these box sets are quality control checked before release. Wanted to order early in case they sell out.

Richard Neal

Looks like “You Jazzy Nork” is missing too. Odd as it was a B side, and effectively an instrumental version of Why Look For The Key

Automaton

Its the last track on Disc 5 in the Dream Into Action Super Deluxe Expanded Box Set

negative1

thanks paul for getting to these,

i know i posted the listings and details awhile ago,
but it’s been quite busy on this site lately.

so i know it takes time.

i like his early works, and these listings look great.

some might complain about the cassettes, and knick knacks
and vinyl, etc. but if you’re going to go super deluxe, why not?
(at least there aren’t any marbles). but they do have membership
cards and badges.

later
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