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Tears For Fears / The Seeds of Love reissue coming in October

The wait is finally over! 4CD+blu-ray box set of the 1989 album

The reissue of Tears For Fears‘ 1989 album The Seeds of Love is officially confirmed today after literally years of hints, rumours and whispers, along with a fairly large dose of frustration from fans who were left disappointed when the TFF reissue bandwagon ground to a halt in 2014, after The Hurting and Songs From The Big Chair box sets in consecutive years.

Although five physical formats are available (more on them later), the one everyone is going to be interested in is the 4CD+blu-ray super deluxe edition box set. It features a remaster of the album (created by Andrew Walter at Abbey Road in 2015), a CD of B-sides, remixes and edits, and then two CDs of unreleased audio. The fifth disc is a blu-ray featuring a 5.1 surround sound mix by Steven Wilson.

As some SDE readers may be aware, as with The Hurting and Songs From The Big Chair reissue campaigns, I have been deeply involved in this project (since late 2014!), co-compiling the track listing, writing sleeve notes and interviewing band members, producers and collaborators for an extensive ‘in their own words’ history of The Seeds of Love which features in the 36-page booklet which comes with the box set. It has been a pleasure and a privilege to be part of this process and there’s some irony in the fact that the reissue has now taken longer than the original album to reach fruition!


‘The Seeds of Love’ 4CD+Blu-ray super deluxe edition (click image to enlarge)

The box set is beautifully presented and the four additional bonus discs have the titles ‘The Sun’ (CD2), ‘The Moon’ (CD 3), ‘The Wind’ (CD4) and ‘The Rain’ (blu-ray) and explore different aspects of the album.

CD 2 – ‘The Sun: 45s and B-sides’ features flip-sides such as ‘Always in the Past‘ and ‘My Life In The Suicide Ranks‘ and the various mixes of ‘Johnny Panic and The Bible of Dreams‘. The much-desired ‘Canadian Single Version’ of ‘Year of the Knife‘ (a completely different mix and only issued as a promo single) is released here commercially, for the first time, and other rare radio edits and instrumentals are also included.

As stated, nothing on CD 3 and CD 4 has ever been commercially released anywhere. CD3 –  ‘The Moon: Radio Edits and Early Mixes’ starts with an extraordinary ten-minute ‘suite’ of ‘Year of the Knife’ segueing from an imposing orchestral version (‘Overture’) to an unheard instrumental mix with a unique and hitherto unknown spooky synth intro! Other highlights on this disc include an alternate mix of ‘Sowing The Seeds of Love’ that runs for nearly seven-and-half-minutes and doesn’t fade at all, ending in laughter and screaming, an alternate version of Badman’s Song, numerous attempts to create a single version of ‘Year of the Knife’, an instrumental/backing track mix of Advice For The Young At Heart and a brilliant early take on Sowing The Seeds of Love – it’s an instrumental but this sounds incredible!

CD 4 – ‘The Wind: Demos, Diversions & Jams’ features some truly amazing content, including four home demos recorded by Nicky Holland, Roland’s songwriting partner for five of the eight tracks on The Seeds of Love. These are ‘Rhythm of Life’, a song that never made it onto The Seeds Of Love (and was later given to Oleta Adams), ‘Advice For The Young At Heart’ with Roland on lead vocals, ‘Swords and Knives’ and ‘Famous Last Words’.

Talking of Oleta, she joined The Seeds of Love sessions in early 1988 along with world-class session players such as drummer Manu Katché and bass player Pino Palladino and Oleta would of course play a significant part in songs such as ‘Woman In Chains’ and ‘Badman’s Song’. DAT tapes of these sessions –  which took place at London’s Townhouse studio – were discovered early in the research process and so CD 4 contains around 30-minutes of highlights of these live-in-the-studio sessions, exactly as it was performed at the time, complete with chatter, some laughter and no overdubs. These jams were mixed at the time by Dave Bascombe and include very different versions of ‘Woman in Chains’, ‘Badman’s Song’, ‘Standing On The Corner Of The Third World’ and ‘Rhythm of Life’. They are a fascinating insight into Roland’s process (Curt was rarely present) and one of the many highlights of this package.

Perhaps the most interesting peak-behind-the-curtain is a instrumental version of Badman’s Song as produced by Clive Langer and Alan Winstanley! In January 1987, after Chris Hughes had left The Seeds of Love project (he would return) new inspiration was sought. Roland told me: “We met up with Clive and he took my Fairlight and drums version of ‘Badman’s Song’ and we worked on that, but of course at that point, it wasn’t a duet at all. In fact, it wasn’t anything like the monster it became. It was much simpler and didn’t really have the essence of what it gained when Oleta came along.”

The sessions were aborted for the simple reason that (according to A&R man Dave Bates) “Roland decided it wasn’t working. There just wasn’t the spark and it was not the thing he was looking for.” These almost mythical sessions with Langer and Winstanley are a fascinating part of the legendary four-year gestation period and the audio offers a glimpse down the path not travelled.

Beautiful themed disc and wallet designs exclusive to the super deluxe

For the final disc,  Blu-ray – ‘The Rain’, Steven Wilson has created what he calls a “very immersive 5.1 surround sound experience” by rebuilding the album from the multi-track tapes. It took the best part of a year to locate all the tapes and was an incredibly complicated process. Steven says that by the time he had all the elements for ‘Year of the Knife’ the multi-track session ran to “well over 100 channels”! Steven’s 5.1 mix of The Seeds Of Love was created with the input and approval of engineer/co-producer Dave Bascombe and Roland Orzabal and he goes into some detail in the booklet around the challenges of creating this mix.

Although there is no new stereo mix (Steven Wilson calls the original mix “sonically one of the best sounding albums I’ve ever heard”) the blu-ray does contain both the newly remastered version of the original mix and significantly, for the purists, Bob Ludwig’s original 1989 mastering.

The box set is the same height and width and style as the previous Tears For Fears boxes (it’s actually not quite as thick) and each CD comes in a gatefold card wallet, which make great use of those ‘sun’, ‘moon’, ‘wind’ and ‘rain’ illustrations. It includes a tour programme replica (in miniature) and the aforementioned booklet. For the latter, I interviewed Roland Orzabal, Curt Smith, Chris Hughes (Producer of Songs From The Big Chair), Dave Bascombe (co-producer of The Seeds of Love), Nicky Holland (songwriter, keyboard player and backing vocalist for The Seeds of Love), Oleta Adams and Dave Bates (Head of A&R, Phonogram),

The four CDs on the box set feature a total of 50 tracks. By my estimation, eight tracks have never been commercially issued on CD, one track is new to CD in the UK and 22 tracks are previously unreleased. This does not include the eight tracks of audio which make up the surround sound mix, so technically that’s 30 previously unreleased audio tracks.


Two-CD edition offers discs one and two from the box set

Moving on from the box set, there’s a two-CD digi-pak edition which features discs one and two from the box set (but not the interviews in the booklet) a gatefold black vinyl edition and a single CD version. Universal Music have also created a special picture disc edition of the album which is only available via their channels.

The Seeds of Love will be reissued on 9 October 2020. Given my involvement in this project, it’s probably no surprise to hear that SDE is selling the box set – and the black vinyl edition –  over on the SDE shop. Use this link to pre-order or alternatively make use of the buy buttons below. SDE stock allocations are guaranteed – if you pre-order we will supply! Other purchasing options are listed on the widgets below.


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The Seeds of Love
– 4CD+blu-ray box set

CD 1 – ORIGINAL ALBUM
NEW REMASTER BY ANDREW WALTER AT ABBEY ROAD

01. Woman In Chains: 6:31
02. Badman’s Song: 8:32
03. Sowing The Seeds Of Love: 6:19
04. Advice For The Young At Heart: 4:50
05. Standing On The Corner Of The Third World: 5:33
06. Swords And Knives: 6:12
07. Year Of The Knife: 7:08
08. Famous Last Words: 4:26

CD 2 – THE SUN
45’s AND B-SIDES

01. Sowing The Seeds Of Love – 7" Version: 5:43
02. Tears Roll Down: 3:16
03. Woman In Chains – 7” Version: 5:28
04. Always In The Past: 4:38
05. My Life In The Suicide Ranks: 4:32
06. Woman In Chains – Instrumental: 6:30
07. Advice For The Young At Heart – 7” Version: 4:49
08. Johnny Panic And The Bible Of Dreams Instrumental: 4:18
09. Music For Tables: 3:32
10. Johnny Panic And The Bible Of Dreams Mix One: 6:22
11. Johnny Panic And The Bible Of Dreams Mix Two: 5:55
12. Sowing The Seeds Of Love – US Radio Edit: 4:04
13. Woman In Chains – US Radio Edit 1: 4:42
14. Advice For The Young At Heart – Italian Radio Edit: 3:40
15. Year Of The Knife – Canadian Single Version: 5:40
16. Johnny Panic And The Bible Of Dreams: 4:17

CD 3 – THE MOON
RADIO EDITS AND EARLY MIXES

01. Year Of The Knife – Overture: 1:47
02. Year Of The Knife – Early Mix – Instrumental: 8:50
03. Sowing The Seeds Of Love – Alternate Mix: 7:22
04. Tears Roll Down – Alternate Mix: 4:07
05. Year Of The Knife – Steve Chase 7″ Remix: 4.29
06. Badman’s Song – Early Mix: 7:56
07. Advice For The Young At Heart – Instrumental: 4:56
08. Year Of The Knife – The Mix: 06:55
09. Johnny Panic And The Bible Of Dreams – Mix One Edit: 3:43
10. Sowing The Seeds Of Love – Early Mix – Instrumental: 6:40
11. Woman In Chains – US Radio Edit 2: 4:19
12. Year Of The Knife – Canadian Single Version – Instrumental: 5:40
13. Famous Last Words – French Radio Edit: 3:07
14. Woman In Chains – Reprise: 6:39

CD 4 – THE WIND
DEMOS, DIVERSIONS AND JAMS

01. Rhythm Of Life – Demo: 5:12
02. Advice For The Young At Heart – Demo: 4:52
03. Swords And Knives – Demo: 3:51
04. Famous Last Words – Demo: 4:12
05. Sowing The Seeds Of Love – Demo – Instrumental: 6:06
06. Badman’s Song – Langer / Winstanley Version – Instrumental: 7:30
07. Woman In Chains – Townhouse Jam: 7:06
08. Broken – Townhouse Jam: 1:37 Tears For Fears
09. Rhythm Of Life – Townhouse Jam: 3:09
10. Badman’s Song – Townhouse Jam: 8:17
11. Badman’s Song – Reprise – Townhouse Jam: 2:50
12. Standing On The Corner Of The Third World – Townhouse Jam: 9:09

BLU RAY – THE RAIN
STEVEN WILSON 5.1 MIX, ORIGINAL ALBUM MIX &  NEW REMASTER

Steven Wilson 5.1 MIX

01. Woman In Chains: 6:30
02. Badman’s Song: 8:32
03. Sowing The Seeds Of Love: 6:19
04. Advice For The Young At Heart: 4:55
05. Standing On The Corner Of The Third World: 5:33
06. Swords And Knives: 6:20
07. Year Of The Knife: 6:55
08. Famous Last Words: 4:11

Original Album Mix (Bob Ludwig 1989 mastering)

01. Woman In Chains: 6:31 (Original album master)
02. Badman’s Song: 8:32 (Original album master)
03. Sowing The Seeds Of Love: 6:19 (Original album master)
04. Advice For The Young At Heart: 4:50 (Original album master)
05. Standing On The Corner Of The Third World: 5:33 (Original album master)
06. Swords And Knives: 6:12 (Original album master)
07. Year Of The Knife: 7:08 (Original album master)
08. Famous Last Words: 4:26 (Original album master)

New remaster (by Andrew Walter at Abbey Road)

01. Woman In Chains: 6:30 (New remaster)
02. Badman’s Song: 8:32 (New remaster)
03. Sowing The Seeds Of Love: 6:19  (New remaster)
04. Advice For The Young At Heart: 4:55 (New remaster)
05. Standing On The Corner Of The Third World: 5:33 (New remaster)
06. Swords And Knives: 6:20 (New remaster)
07. Year Of The Knife: 6:55  (New remaster)
08. Famous Last Words: 4:11 (New remaster)

The Seeds of Love vinyl LP remaster (same tracks on picture disc)

Side 1
01. Woman In Chains: 6:31
02. Badman’s Song: 8:32
03. Sowing The Seeds Of Love: 6:19
04. Advice For The Young At Heart: 4:50

Side 2
01. Standing On The Corner Of The Third World: 5:33
02. Swords And Knives: 6:12
03. Year Of The Knife: 7:08
04. Famous Last Words: 4:26

The Seeds of Love 2CD deluxe

CD 1 – ORIGINAL ALBUM
NEW REMASTER BY ANDREW WALTER AT ABBEY ROAD

01. Woman In Chains: 6:31
02. Badman’s Song: 8:32
03. Sowing The Seeds Of Love: 6:19
04. Advice For The Young At Heart: 4:50
05. Standing On The Corner Of The Third World: 5:33
06. Swords And Knives: 6:12
07. Year Of The Knife: 7:08
08. Famous Last Words: 4:26

CD 2 – THE SUN
45’s AND B-SIDES

01. Sowing The Seeds Of Love – 7" Version: 5:43
02. Tears Roll Down: 3:16
03. Woman In Chains – 7” Version: 5:28
04. Always In The Past: 4:38
05. My Life In The Suicide Ranks: 4:32
06. Woman In Chains – Instrumental: 6:30
07. Advice For The Young At Heart – 7” Version: 4:49
08. Johnny Panic And The Bible Of Dreams Instrumental: 4:18
09. Music For Tables: 3:32
10. Johnny Panic And The Bible Of Dreams Mix One: 6:22
11. Johnny Panic And The Bible Of Dreams Mix Two: 5:55
12. Sowing The Seeds Of Love – US Radio Edit: 4:04
13. Woman In Chains – US Radio Edit 1: 4:42
14. Advice For The Young At Heart – Italian Radio Edit: 3:40
15. Year Of The Knife – Canadian Single Version: 5:40
16. Johnny Panic And The Bible Of Dreams: 4:17

The Seeds of Love single CD remaster

NEW REMASTER BY ANDREW WALTER AT ABBEY ROAD

01. Woman In Chains: 6:31
02. Badman’s Song: 8:32
03. Sowing The Seeds Of Love: 6:19
04. Advice For The Young At Heart: 4:50
05. Standing On The Corner Of The Third World: 5:33
06. Swords And Knives: 6:12
07. Year Of The Knife: 7:08
08. Famous Last Words: 4:26

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Aidan

Hi Paul
I’d had the 4CD & Blu-Ray set on my wishlist but now it appears to be sold out! Do you know if that is it for the manufacturing run or might they press more? There is clearly a demand

Robert

So…pre-ordered this in August. Release date came, went. All along supplier asked for patience. Today, order cancelled. Looks like it’s fairly unavailable now. Paul…is it out of print? Was it extremely limited. Scored The Hurting and Big Chair boxes in the spring. Going to be really unhappy to have missed this one.

c_q

yeah, I wound up doing that, even though the amazon uk price and shipping was less than SDE (boy did I grumble about it too), but I’ve gotten burned more than a few times with amazon uk ultimately not shipping new releases to US.

David

I am disappointed with the sound quality on the Blu-Ray Audio (24bit/48khz) which I am lead to believe is little more than cd quality. When I look back at your other News announcements for the likes of Yes, XTC and Jethro Tull, you go out of your way to state 24bit/192khz stereo from original master and 24bit/98khz 5.1 surround mix. So going back to ‘Seeds Of Love’ you appear to have left out the sample rate of this release ’24/48′ as maybe it wasn’t a plus point. David

Berry

Does anyone know if it’s really the 7″ single version (mixed by Bob Clearmountain) on disc 2? To me it sounds like the normal album version from disc 1

If you’re referring to “Advice…”, yes, it’s definitely the Clearmountain mix. The guitar solo is mixed differently, there is wind in the intro, some other things different with key and string parts.

The Italian radio edit, on the other hand, is just a ill-advised early fade of the LP mix.

James Ingles

Of note also is that this set does not include the full version of Sowing the Seeds of Love from the CD single that clocks in at 6:50. I wonder why that is?

Stephen

Advice for the young at heart at the end of side 1 on the vinyl carries on into the run out groove, which is rubbish as you either get a loud thump of the needle as it ends or if you play on a semi/automatic turntable the needle picks up before the song proper ends. Sort of makes this vinyl release redundant to me. Haven’t tried the picture disc yet

Alleah

Really suprised the tour which heavily promoted this cd is not with this box set!! Having Oleta Adams with them brings it sll together. I loved the mix of music and visuals the previous Tears for Fears box sets had! Can’t wait to get this.

Stéphane

I can’t find laid si low! A great omission ?

Erik Richardson

Exactly what I was looking for , “tears roll down , laid so low” flag single version which was on tears roll down singles compilation eh ?

Stephane Ruscher

It’s weird that the Laid So Low sleeve is in the booklet, but Paul is right, it would make more sense on an Elemental Super Deluxe Edition, it’s already the Orzabal/Griffiths Tears For Fears at play here.

Jos

Bought it at Dutch Amazon at the day the news was announced, for just € 19,30 and they are actually going to deliver it at that price!!! Cheapest box ever!!! Wow!!!

James Auman

I liked hearing that this is one of Steven Wilson’s favorite albums and he considers it a masterpiece in production. So much so he wouldn’t do a new stereo mix.

Nigel Day

Looks lovely and I was so close but I really cannot listen to Badmans Song and 1 version of YOTK is one version too many. Their worst track imo. So, enjoy guys. I’m slightly envious but I can’t handle that rawk stuff. Well done on what does look like a beautiful finished product though Paul.

Shane

Dear Mr Paul will there be anymore of the other boxset i keep missing the mark on the first 2 which annoys me greatly. I’m not paying the scalper prices for them which they would release some more

Steve K

Some other audio from the box has been shared by the band via YouTube

Tears Roll Down (Alternate Mix)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppVNJ16PTgo

Advice for the Young At Heart (Italian Radio Edit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IStbeN45eAg

Sowing the Seeds of Love (Early Mix/Instrumental)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IugdeXa4rk

Standing on the Corner of the Third World (Townhouse Live Jam Session)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqPh4BRB9Ao

Woman in Chains (Townhouse Live Jam Session)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohBXbj9ghWo

Roderik

Will there be an unboxing video?

Chris hudson

Boo-yeah! I can finally retire all my odds and ends as the 3 box sets gives my the complete output of the orginal tears for fears run! The track listing / organization looks great by the way Chris! Nicely done!

Some odds & ends weren’t picked up by the box sets.

– Ideas as Opiates (original b-side version)
– Saxophones as Opiates
– We are Broken (original b-side version)

Saxophones as Opiates omission was explained at the time that they didn’t want it on the box set yet they were fine putting that dreadful Wino on there. The other two tracks there has been no explanation for their absences.

Stephen Nash

I wonder if I order the 4CD box set from you if I’ll get one, I remember pre-ordering a signed Paul Young CD from you months in advance only to be told there was no more stock when it came to the week of delivery, despite pre-ordering about two months in advance. It’s put me off a bit because you might just hold my money for a month only to give me another disappointing refund?

Chris

Just seeing this news now — amazing! Paul, will there be a download card of some kind available with the box set version? I don’t have CD or Blu-Ray but I’d order it anyway to get access to the tunes in electronic format. Thx either way.

mike

Finally watched Going To California again after all these years, really is a brilliant audio document of that tour. The intercutting, colour switching etc does get painful after a while but still a lot of fun. Actually, can I use the word fun in a discussion about TFF?

It would be even better if it included “Standing on the Corner of the Third World” (which was broadcast but not released). While we’re at it, I’d also like an audio release of the 1990 versions of “The Working Hour”, “The Hurting” and “Let It Be” which were all played at some 1990 gigs. (Not sure about “Swords and Knives”, setlist.fm lists one instance, but I’m skeptical…)

Brian Nelson

Is the Bluray “all region?”

Brian Nelson

Thanks for the quick response. The reason I asked is that Grooves out of Berlin, Germany was selling this set for ~$60 but they advertised it as being region B. So I thought maybe there are videos on it or something, but reading the description here it appears that it was just the bluray audio. Thanks for the clarification.

Fulvio

At long, long last! A serious contender for the title of 2020 best reissue. The real best reissue would have been, by far: Tears for Fears, The Seeds of Love in an XTC (CD+BluRay) style.

Ryk

Rhythm of Life (demo) is up on YouTube. Hopefully this post will work (as I have not had much luck getting posts with links in them to work).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Asyb8IY2hw

Steve K

Link works.
I was about to post the same thing. Great demo…Roland’s voice, beautiful.

Stephen dC

Curious that Amazon now have The Hurting & Songs From The Big Chair SDE’s at £190.00 while HMV sell at under £30.00 just as this is announced. Just saying.

Marco Larocque

Great news. Will the boy ray be available on its own like SFTBC?

Dean

I asked this. Pity really when companies only release them as part of the box set as I am sure they are missing out on a market that wants excellent sound quality but probably don’t want all the extra tracks etc.

Michael

Bravo, Paul! The new TFF box set compilation looks perfect :-) Since you’re a music collector enthusiast like the rest of us, I can only wish you were personally involved in the planning of many other box set releases.

Regarding shipping to the U.S., the Trump administration’s newly appointed post master has made attempts to diminish the U.S. postal system by removing automated mail sorting machines and public post boxes, etc. In recent days our domestic mail delivery has become delayed by three to seven days, so I have to assume international mail to the U.S. will also be impacted, if not more so. Very troubling.

Jules(Rules)

Wikipedia says this:

“Some of the tracks, particularly “Badman’s Song”, were recorded several times in a variety of musical styles including, according to Holland, versions of the song that were reminiscent of Barry White, Little Feat and Steely Dan before settling on the jazz/gospel version that is on the finished album.”

From reading the tracklist, it doesn’t seem like those are all included. Was this just a rumour or are those versions so bad that they couldn’t be used? ;-)

c_q

good golly, shipping cost to US from SDE is about half the cost of the deluxe edition cost! did royal mail double their prices recently or something?

Mark

Probably on my own here but I really don’t like this album at all. For me The Hurting was by far their best album although SFTBC is very good. I bought both on vinyl originally and then the Blu Ray reissues. I lost interest in TFF when they got this (a bit like Curt himself I expect!) and did not buy it first time around and won’t be getting this, but will be buying the Vienna super deluxe for the hi res DVD-A.

Ryk

Mark,

To some extent I agree. I personally like SftBC best and The Hurting second best. I’m not sure if TSoL comes in third as I haven’t fully connected to any other TfF album as much as the first two. Elemental and ELaHE are also contenders for my third most liked. One day I will sit down and listen to all three to find out which I prefer. Also, after some hesitation, I’ve also ordered the Ultravox set, mainly for the 5.1 surround.

On another note, I’m leaning toward wanting ELaHE as the next deluxe release (should their be one) as it seems to rather hard to source now (and is the only TfF album I’m lacking).

I second the wish for an ELAHE reissue. The mastering on the US version is not good, and the EU version sounds abysmal. Could also get live recordings and/or remixes added to it. With the many layers on the album it also sounds like a natural candidate for surround, although I don’t know whether the multis still exist. (Personally, I would also get a new drummer, but that would probably be seen as sacrilege!)

Leonardo Lotti Marques

Paul

Will SDE be releasing any any accompanying magazine/booklet to go along with the box?

Is the booklet from the box itself incorporating any elements of “The Seeds of Love” that came out in 1990?
When you meant tour book, that does not have anything to do with that (the book), right?

Cheers

Ivan

There must be a story in the various causes for all stopping and starting of the release over the years. Not ire how interesting that is though.

mike

It took me a while to find my copy but there was an excellent six page article in Q magazine from September 1989 (no 36) by Phil Sutcliffe, which charted the development of the album, with input from all the key protagonists. Well worth finding on eBay.

Steve M

Great shout as that ought to be in the loft ! I knew I’d be vindicated for keeping all those back issues. I think there’s a fair number of Vox’s as well up there…

Neil

Something i just found out is that the full version of Sowing The Seeds Of Love was renamed Wen’s Overnight Mix and is on this https://www.discogs.com/Tears-For-Fears-Tears-Roll-Down-Greatest-Hits-82-92/release/4665967 as well as this https://www.discogs.com/Tears-For-Fears-The-Best-Of-Remixes/release/283152

Neil

£69.99 on hmv.com no wonder they keep going out of business.

Robert

Serious and slightly off topic question Paul but have you ever considered writing a biography of bands like TFF? You writing skills are excellent and you would have enough material from your interviews to draw on.

Can’t wait for this boxset. I hope Universal will do the same for ABC. Lexicon of Love at least needs a Super Deluxe..

Branny

Was dithering over this one but after the first lot sold out I had second thoughts. I should have known really, as a regular SDE follower I know this has been eagerly awaited, probably more than the other two so ordered as soon as I received the “more stock” notification from you. I missed out on the first run of The Hurting and regretted it so didn’t want that feeling again. Thanks Paul.

Jos

First of all, thanks Paul for all the work you put into this project, for all the research that has been done to find all these interesting tracks. You couldn’t have made me more happier this week!! Waited so long for this news.
As I wrote earlier here, I am reading this book ‘the seeds of love’ with background stories behind every song and sheet music. Both Roland and Curt were interviewed for this book and in one chapter they say the album went though various working titles:
“Among some of the more unwieldly monikers were such evocative mouthfuls as ‘Raoul And The Kings Of Spain’ (Raoul being Orzabal’s oft-quoted nickname), ‘Zen And The Kings Of Bohemia’ (a restaurant and pub respectively in North London), ‘Alight Here For Gospel Oak’ (abus-stop sign in the same vicinity) and ‘Sowing The Seeds Of Love’ (the eventual winner in slightly shortened form)”
Do you know if this story is true and if there were more working titles for the album or for the seperate songs? Or will this be revealed in your booklet? Thanks Paul!!

Robert

I’ve read on more than one occasion that Raoul and the kings of Spain was the original title but Curt vetoed it.

SimonP

What order did Curt want it? Do we get to find out?

Jules(Rules)

Curt might have a point there. As much as I love the Seeds album, I think if there’s one thing that’s maybe not quite right, it’s the running order. The previous two albums opened with the big anthem, whereas on this one we have to wait until track 3 to get it (and STSOL has musical as well as lyrical ties to both “The Hurting” and “Shout”).

Of course I don’t know whether that’s what he wanted!

Steve K

Agreed. The album probably should have started with Sowing the Seeds of Love or Year of the Knife IMO. That being said, Woman in Chains did kinda set the tone of the album and let you know this was a very different, but still amazing, TFF album.

Neil

I was wondering on the subject of Bob Ludwig’s original 1989 mastering is this a unreleased mix as i can’t find any reference to him being involved with this album at all ?

Neil

I wonder why he wasn’t mentioned in the credits on the album. Anyway for an album from 1989 the mastering on the original is excellent.

Robert

Maybe mastering wasn’t considered an important detail back then. Re-masters yes because often, and regrettable in my view, you are tinkering with the originals.

Did you in early cinema many films didn’t even list the director in the credits.

Ron I

They’re finally up at Amazon Canada!

Alan Crane

Ordered the box set this morning from your shop before it goes out of stock again. I think I have all the CD singles that were released from the album (including the STSOL 3″ cd single that came in a plastic sunflower shaped case) and also the Johnny Panic CDS. I pre-ordered both of the previous box sets from Amazon and only got Songs From The Big Chair, they must have run out of The Hurting – but by pre-ordering I assumed I’d have got one. Anyway ordering from your shop should ensure I get this one.

SimonP

Unlike Townsend Music. Yes, I’m still bitter!

DAVID LOCK

Think it would be really interesting to read what goes on in the making of a box set like this from an insider. Things like how long it took to find all the tapes, do any research etc. Would be interesting to read Paul.

Derek in Canada

Thank you, Paul! Ordered the box set yesterday.
Can’t wait to hear Woman in Chains and especially Advice for the Young at Heart
in 5.1.
Now I know what I’m getting for my birthday gift this year :-)

Jefferson

Forgive me if this was asked already (there are a LOT of comments about this wonderful announcement). The graphic image of the LP almost appears to show 2 records in a gatefold sleeve if you look carefully (you can see a second record behind the first one).

Am I missing something? Is there a 2LP version as well?

SimonP

Is the sunflower included though?

Ernie

371 comments at time of writing! This sums up years of pent up music fan fustration!! Can you imagine how comments there would be for the “Wedding Album” box set? Ha ha ha. For that one, I think we’d have to have DD leave Warners & Warners decide to do their own thing, not needing band approval!

Paul, how about a booklet on “”Big Thing” ? With say a Daniel Abraham interviewed if you possibly could. A far superior album than Liberty. Better artistically, better artwork, more successful for starters! If there’s anyone who does’ nt LOVE “”Land” please give them my email address! Hopefully, the band will do an official T-shirt with the artwork on. Paul, I’ll give you a tenner now for a booklet on it!!!!!

Chris Squires

It shows how far SDE has come Paul when a 2011 article on a Duran album deluxe reissue gets 11 replies, three of which are yours and one is from 2016, 5 years late to the party.

thomS

Also my first order from your site-thank your for your permanent efforts Paul!!! Saw TFF on that tour on match 12th 1990 here in my hometown in north germany! It was a bit too cherry sweet for my taste at that time (songs and lightshow) but an impressive night! Now I‘m in my ‚old daddy years‘, my better half better doesn‘t know about this investment but I can‘t hardly wait till october!

Robert Morgenstern

Great News. Great Set. Ordered immediately. Sad that the promo videos don’t find it’s way on the blu-ray. Space should not be the problem i think. So this is the first set without any video material.

R.naud

As with everything, there is always room for improvement. Personally I find there are way too many instrumental versions of tracks which you usually listen to once and never bother to listen again. I also deplores the fact they decided not to include a live disc (Going to California?) like they did in previous box sets, particularly when they include a replica of the tour programme. Someone’s going to say that Going to California is available on DVD but so is Scenes from the Big Chair and yet it was included in the previous box set, same with the promo videos and TV appearances. To me the whole point of a box set is to house everything in the same box (which incidentally would have brought the box to the same size as the previous box sets ;) ). Apart from that, of course it is a great box!

Adam

Is Going to California really available as an official DVD release? I think VHS and Laserdisc only?

Steve K

Unfortunately not on all versions like the US one I own.

Jules(Rules)

Also, apparently the sound quality is worse than on the original Laserdisc (DVD space issues?). Eagle should hopefully be on the case. This, along with the Rockpalast, BBC and Massey Hall gigs would make good future live releases.

Markyp

This looks amazing and happy to support and order from you Paul.
Box set and the record ordered!

johnny john

order deluxe from SDE to Quebec!

Marxisn't

Ordered… My first from you Paul and thanks.
I adore this album; I remember having this on my Walkman with an exchanged Always in the Past for the title track (I actually preferred the fluke mix of Johnny Panic) .
The box set is almost perfect: shame about the missing promo videos and no Going to California… I hope that comes out later as a CD/Bluray or DVD package: as there should be enough sales of this to justify it.
Odd that they’ve decided to go blu-ray this time. Still a lot of audio content and all those different versions to immerse myself in. This is probably the best in audio content of the three sets.

Stefano

I wanted to support you and thank you for your contribution, so I just ordered from SDE. Thanks Paul! We really appreciate your positive interference.

I do hope the 7:22 version of STSOF is the same mix as the full 6:48 version but with a longer outtro without a fade-out.

Joe Atari

This is fantastic news. Ordered immediately. I must have played the album 100s of times by now, often just the amazing second part which works as a whole. I’ve long known there was a “lost” version 1986-87 period and sometimes wondered how it would differ. We finally get to find out. Also great that it works with the other 2 albums of this Roland & Curt trilogy. Those extra remixes of “Johnny Panic” are the ones by Fluke, right? Came out in 1990 I think as a low-key single. Also key to this is Oleta so it’s nice to hear “Rhythm Of Life” as it was written for her. Artwork also totally in keeping with the original issues. I don’t think this can be faulted actually. The videos are on Tears Roll Down the DVD edition anyway. Everything you’d want to hear, and at £50. Well done on finally getting through the red tape and over the finish line.

Wayne

Very excited for this – at last!

Quick question, how do you go about deciding on the tracklist for the bonus discs (like Discs 3 & 4)? Do you try and develop a flow or is it just hodge-podge?

Would be great if you did a behind the scenes feature of all the work and steps you put into this (and the other two TFF) SDEs.

Thanks Paul!

Chris Squires

Apparently this is how the track listing was devised, the first 30 seconds of this documentary shows how it is all done :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ommMKTyUVU&t=39s

Wayne C

It’s a shame they couldn’t add the MFSL version onto the blu-ray as well now that would have been something, brilliant as it already is guess I can’t complain?. I did once buy a Rick Wakeman Journey SDE box set which included the MFSL mix as well so it can be done.

Jos

Ordered the box and took the book from the shelf which I bought back in the days of the release (tears for fears – the seeds of love – ISBN 0-86369-329-6) It contains the sheetmusic to the songs from the album, but also interesting stories behind every song. It’s going to be extra fun now to re-read it.