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Prince / Welcome 2 America

Unreleased vault album recorded in 2010

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Prince / Welcome 2 America album cover
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The Prince Estate and Legacy Recordings are to issue Welcome 2 America a previously unreleased Prince album recorded in 2010. The album was “mysteriously archived” by Prince and features some of his only studio collaborations with bassist Tal Wilkenfeld, drummer Chris Coleman, and engineer Jason Agel, with additional contributions from New Power Generation singers Shelby J., Liv Warfield, and Elisa Fiorillo and keyboardist Morris Hayes, who Prince also recruited to co-produce several tracks on the album.

In terms of chronology, if issued at the time, the album would have sat between 20Ten (2010) and Plectrumelectrum (2014).

Welcome 2 America is being issued on CD and 2LP vinyl, but a four-disc deluxe edition brings together CD, 2LP and blu-ray in a large format package.

The blu-ray is Welcome 2 America (Live at The Forum, April 28, 2011). In typical Prince style, he may not have bothered issuing the album, but he still embarked on a tour of the same name! This is the full show at the forum and it’s presented in stereo, 5.1 surround and Dolby Atmos, and includes a generous 24 tracks from across Prince’s career; big hits, fan favourites and rare covers.

The deluxe edition is large format and features a 32 page 12″ x 12″ book, poster and an “embossed vellum envelope” of limited edition memorabilia all housed in a luxe, gold embossed package.

Parchment, or posh paper!

Welcome 2 America deluxe edition
Welcome 2 America deluxe edition

Sadly there’s no CD+blu-ray edition, which means if you want that blu-ray with the Atmos mix, the deluxe edition is your only option. The deluxe appeared for a very short period on Amazon in the UK for £150, and indeed it is that price on HMV. It’s looking like buying from the USA will save you money even with shipping and possible import VAT. Update! At the time of writing Amazon France is by far the best deal for UK fans.

Welcome 2 America will be released on 28 July 2021.

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Tracklisting

Welcome 2 America Prince / 2LP vinyl

    • Side
      1. Welcome 2 America
      2. Running Game (Son Of A Slave Master)
      3. Born 2 Die
      4. 1000 Light Years From Here
    • Side B
      1. Hot Summer
      2. Stand Up And B Strong
      3. Check The Record
      4. Same Page, Different Book

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Welcome 2 America Prince / CD

    • CD – Welcome 2 America
      1. Welcome 2 America
      2. Running Game (Son Of A Slave Master)
      3. Born 2 Die
      4. 1,000 Light Years From Here
      5. Hot Summer
      6. Stand Up And B Strong*
      7. Check The Record
      8. Same Page Different Book
      9. When She Comes
      10. 1010 (Rin Tin Tin)
      11. Yes
      12. One Day We Will All B Free

Photographic art print, 23”x36” poster, replica setlist, ticket, VIP invitation and backstage passes

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Prince / Welcome 2 America album cover

Welcome 2 America (Live at The Forum, April 28, 2011) Prince / Blu-ray with live concert

    • Blu-ray
      1.    Joy In Repetition
      2.    Brown Skin (India.Arie cover)
      3.    17 Days
      4.    Shhh
      5.    Controversy
      6.    Theme From “Which Way Is Up” (Stargard cover)
      7.    What Have You Done For Me Lately (Janet Jackson cover)
      8.    Partyman
      9. It’s Alright (Graham Central Station cover)
      10.    Make You Feel My Love (Bob Dylan cover)
      11.    Misty Blue (Eddy Arnold cover)
      12.    Let’s Go Crazy
      13.    Delirious
      14.    1999
      15.    Little Red Corvette
      16.    Purple Rain
      17.    The Bird (The Time cover – Prince composition)
      18.    Jungle Love (The Time cover – Prince composition)
      19.    A Love Bizarre (Sheila E. cover – Prince composition)
      20.    Kiss
      21.    Play That Funky Music (Wild Cherry cover)
      22.    Inglewood Swinging (cover of Kool & the Gang’s “Hollywood Swinging”)
      23.    Fantastic Voyage (Lakeside cover)
      24.    More Than This (Roxy Music cover)

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SDE Resident

The pricing structure here makes no sense. I’m in the UK so if you take the individual price of the CD & Vinyl (presuming, of course that you want both); allow a charitable £20 for a Blu-Ray that means we’re being asked to pay £83 for what? A 32 page booklet (let’s call it what it is – the S’O’TT box included a proper ‘book’), poster and an envelope of replica tat.

I think SONY have seen the success of the S’O’TT boxset and got over-excited. IMHO that set deserved its pricepoint because the era covered was one of Prince’s best and the extra material included was long desired. As much as Prince fans are craving new music this is essentially 12-tracks of indeterminate quality from a less-than-stellar period of his.

Even with these misgivings I’m completely the target audience for this release and would happily stretch to ~£50 for the CD + Blu-Ray in a nice box. £150, however, is taking the proverbial. I think SONY have severely misjudged and will be left with a large number of unsold units on their hands.

My wallet is already loosened for almost anything The Estate want to throw at me (Parade SDE, Diamonds & Pearls SDE, standalone ‘Camille’ release, live releases on-demand, year-by-year outtake archives, etc…) but please don’t play me.

jd4ever
SDE Resident

Ridiculous price for what’s included in the BOXSET.
The blu ray is the only thing of interest to me, hopefully that may get released separately.
Prices are going crazy, for example if you look at the latest release thats coming from Yes, “30 Live” …

djessie
SDE Fanatic

I was going to wait for the Amazon UK pre-order links for the deluxe but gave up on waiting. Thankfully I ordered from Amazon France instead – the UK price is absolutely mad!

SDE Reader

I was ready to buy the Deluxe Edition without a 2nd thought as I did with Purple Rain, 1999 and SOTT but then listened to the title track and changed my mind. I was a major fan up to 1996 and Emancipation, but then kinda fell off but I still continued buying his new albums but they didn’t excite me anymore and I would be lucky to even like 2 to 3 tracks up through Planet Earth in 07. Then everything after 07 was just bad. I loved the recent 3 reissue sets but I am passing on this set as he recorded it during my least favorite era of his. I hope the Blu-ray of the concert is released separately at some point.

Axeqlusive
SDE Reader

Got myself the gold LP and 7″ from the official store and was watching for a nice price on the deluxe edition in the EU. They are going crazy. Dutch wholesaler Bol.com started at 210 EUR (now they’re at a more decent 110 btw). Fortunately I was on top of it at Amazon.fr. Got it for 74 EUR thanks to the discount Emili posted here. Considering the cd is 15, the 2LP is 30… the Blu-ray and geek stuff is about 30 EUR. Fair to me.

BTW; Been following this site for a while, but… first post, whoop whoop!

Last edited 8 days ago by Axeqlusive
Tim Joseph
SDE Resident

My French isn’t great, but it looks like Amazon.fr has also reached the limit of copies allocated to them, just as was the case in the UK.

While I might have pulled the trigger at the French price, there’s no way I’m paying three figures for a single album. I haven’t seen it on here, but the forthcoming John Grant album is also being released in a £100 SDE with not a single note extra to the £10 CD. Even the “deluxe” vinyl is £50, so you’d be paying double for a box and a couple more prints. If this is the future of new releases, I’m out!

SDE Fanatic

But to be fair to John Grant, there is a signed edition for £23.

I do agree that the more expensive versions look a bit bonkers. Why you’d pay £95 for the same signed musical content as the £23 edition is beyond me. They could at least include the cd.

He’s still brilliant and well worth seeing in concert.

Emili
SDE Resident

There is a Japanese edition which includes only the CD(BSCD2) and the bluray.

Fluxkit
SDE Fanatic

Yes, I just saw this on CDJapan. Though, given the price plus shipping, it might not be a better deal than the deluxe with vinyl price depending on where you are in the world.

Richard S
SDE Resident

Just seen the price has come up on amazon uk and I think at £150 that is way too much for what you get. Considering SOTT was (not much) less than this and you got a lot more content than this.

SDE Reader

Ordered the gold LP and 7″ from the official store and nabbed a clear vinyl from HMV. I’ve pre-ordered the boxset from Amazon UK (£150!!!) when it was briefly available. Also pre-ordered it from Amazon CA and France. Have to see which is the cheapest closer to the time and cancel the others. I saw his ‘Welcome 2…’ show at Hop Farm in 2011 and was quite magical although I think this tour/era was quite low on creativity. From what I’ve heard the album didn’t get released because he couldn’t find any label willing to release it. Will be an interesting addition to his catalogue, although an inessential one, perhaps.

SDE Resident

Paul, I want to change my rating. :) (yes, I’m one of those people …) That’s not possible? Fair enough, but I thought I’d check it with you.

SDE Resident

No worries. I really love all the other features now! Great update of the site!

SimonP2
SDE Resident

The CLEAR vinyl version is now starting to show up elsewhere (ie Drift). It seems to be classed as an Independant Record Store version so may be more widely available than originally thought.
UK price for the deluxe box genuinely seems to be emerging at £159.99 !!

Sterling
SDE Reader

Bought on pre-order today at Popmarket.com for $85.79 used promo code for additional 10% off. Used code THANKS10.
free shipping also. Total amount $82.61. I believe the pre-order price is for today only.

Kauwgompie
SDE Legend

Thank you Sterling. Grabbed it and canceled my Amazon France order. Brilliant deal! Paid $82!!

Sterling
SDE Reader

Glad to be of help.

SDE Resident

Definitely needs a couple more options than it currently has – the package without the vinyl and/or the concert on a standalone audio/video package. You’d think this sort of thing would be a given but record labels never cease to mystify us consumers…

Rob Sweater
SDE Reader

The clear vinyl is now gone from jpc.de. Manage to get one before and might settle for that and hoping for a stand-alone-release of the concert-BR.

mixterr
SDE Reader

It’s a bit of a slim offering for $100. With that being said, I attended his concert on April 29th 2011 (the following night). So the deluxe set is a MUST HAVE for me. I was fortunate to have seen 3 of the LA 21 Nite Stand shows. My only regret was not going to more shows! Prince was on top of his game and had the crowd eating out of his hand. I know that they filmed most of the nights that I attended. Maybe just for the projection screens. Here’s hoping that the Vault releases more full length concerts on blu-ray!

SDE Fanatic

Brilliant. Thanks David.

I keep looking at the Amazon France price, in the context of it being half price to elsewhere, and yet it’s still not enough to entice me. Perhaps if I was a bigger fan of watching concert material I’d go for it, but ultimately all I need is the album.

Goonerdude
SDE Reader

Put a pre-order in for the Deluxe set a few days ago when the set was announced with Amazon America for about £86 but now the price has gone up $10. Jumped on the Amazon France offer even with the slighty faster shipping option picked works out £74 delivered happy days. Can’t believe the price HMV & Amazon UK have put up so far. There is some crazy prices around Europe for this Deluxe set.

MartinLucas44
SDE Reader

Thanks for the tip, I ordered the deluxe edition on Amazon France.
I only hope, the will deliver or have it in stock when it finally is released.
Some years ago I pre-ordered the Eric Clapton deluxe edition of “I still do”, that was only available for pre-order on Amazon France. When the album was released amazon wrote that they have problems delivering the album, 3 months later the order has been cancelled by them….
The price in other stores is too expensive, so I’m hoping for the best.

Great new LOOK of the SDE-Site btw.

SDE Reader

i have already order the deluxe amazon.fr edition but i might think it again .you can preview on you tube some of the tracks ,
and for my taste are average. here are the links https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxfu1nq1Ywc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7kEBGlBN9g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3Po8X9u23U
1,000 Light Years From Here is included in full as a 3:05 coda to the track Black Muse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUYJi_IFUCM .yes, its prince and these mediocre songs might be some of the best for someone else.
but are they good enough for 79 euros ,not to mention the ridiculously higher prices? hear yourself and decide.i think no,
and the man himself knew better and didnt officially release the album. i think its worth to have on cd or vinyl,
but nothing more that that.

dAnArchi
SDE Reader

I don’t have the highest of hopes for the musical quality of this …… but it’s Prince, so it’s really a no brainer for me. Bought the Deluxe edition from Amazon.fr and since the release date is quite far away, I’ll be monitoring the prices :-)

SDE Resident

Thanks for the tip on Amazon France – just ordered the deluxe (gold and 7″ already on order from official store).

J Douglas
SDE Reader

The deluxe box is tempting for the blu-ray as this tour was the last performance of his that I was able to attend. But reading between the lines; 1) no explicit reference to blu-ray being exclusive and 2) limited quantity for deluxe box raise my suspicion a CD/blu-ray option may yet appear in due time.
Most readers of this thread are probably already aware, the next book of the studio sessions (Parade & SOTT) is scheduled for release in June. The previous book (Purple Rain & ATWIAD) was exhaustive and an informative, compelling read.

SDE Reader

I was really up for this special edition, then I saw the UK price, but thanks for the heads up I’ve got it from Amazon France for an ok price, so cheers Paul. I guess it’s also Diamonds and Pearls special edition this year too as that was the info from the same source who stated this album would be out.

SDE Resident

A Princely sum indeed . . .

Unfortunately they have applied Prince’s “warner bros pricing template” to this release:

£140 for 1 album of new material is too much (for me). At least with SOTT we got 3 cds of unreleased songs. The SDE doe sloook great but in the end it is the music I want, so the£10 cd option is the option for me . . . and i ADORE prince.

The best value for Prince releases recently was the “up all nite ” collection – £30 or thereabouts for a wallet full of tracks not previously available outside of the U.S. … for a wallet friendly price.

I hope they did bury the man FACE DOWN after all so he can’t see the THIEVES IN THE TEMPLE.

Teiemka
SDE Reader

Thanks again for all you do and the new site is great, comments section is much improved from the previously cumbersome chronological ordering. I have given the lowest rating to this post not because of the content, but show my displeasure with the gouging by the Prince Estate. I will add that 1999, SOTT SDE are fantastic, the PR Expanded even if rushed was really good too.

In the past you have used your platform to provide feedback from the fans to the record companies. I sincerely hope you do not avoid bringing up with Prince Estate or Michael Howe the incomprehensible decision not to offer CD+BR in any market other than Japan. Yes they don’t owe us an explanation, but they should not get complacent that we will slavishly buy anything they put out.

Looking forward to the album, and how an outlier like Hot Summer fits in the context of the other material which seems less mainstream pop.

SDE Fanatic

Trying out the attach image feature. Prince from the 21 nights in London book.

SDE Fanatic

Any idea why the image from the above post didn’t show up? It was uploaded when I sent the comment. I’ve attached it again.

SDE Fanatic

I still don’t see it. I’ve checked on two phones and my lap top – all up to date. Oh well, it’s no big deal – if I know others can see it, then I already know what I posted.

Seth Hollander
SDE Resident

I don’t see it either, both on my up-to-date iPhone and my completely out-of-date MacBook. The updated site is functionally read-only on my computer: the login and comment buttons are completely inactive on my FireFox48.0.2/Mac OS10.6.8 set up.
Looks like I can only comment via the tinyphone, a real inhibitor for a thick fingered wobbly eyed 52yr old!

SDE Fanatic

No in-comment images coming up for me either (using PC with latest Chrome/Firefox/Edge).

Wayne C
SDE Fanatic

Could I ask if a pre order from Amazon France is there the final price I pay or is there import fees to add?

Wayne C
SDE Fanatic

Cheers for that Paul

Matthias
SDE Reader

Fantastic preorder price for this one on Amazon France: only 79.16 Euro!

Emili
SDE Resident

Plus -10€ with the code PROMO10 if you use the app for the first time.
For me 75,21€ shipped to Spain.

SDE Reader

Brilliant find Emili mine cost £62.81 GBP delivered to the UK using your code Thanks.

djessie
SDE Fanatic

I ordered the box from there, and then the 7″ from the Official Prince store.

Last edited 11 days ago by djessie
SDE Reader

Cd and vinyl and i m done.fortunatly there is no signed copy.it would be scary.

SDE Resident

Major apologies if the following has already been posted (I confess, I did not scrawl through all 105 comments preceding this one!)… on Sunday, April 11, 2021 on CBS’s “60 Minutes,” they’ll be devoting part of the program to “Welcome 2 America.” Here is a trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcEXNOs80Qg

golden phoenix
SDE Resident

How can you see the show in the uk?

SDE Resident

Excellent question, golden phoenix… in fact, the CBS “60 Minutes” website appears to limit viewing its videos to Americans only. I’m Canadian, I have found this out the hard way. However, I will get to watch it via conventional television broadcasting on Sunday evening (April 11, 2021). I suggest monitoring YouTube using search words that include “CBS… 60 Minutes… Prince… Welcome 2 America.” I hope that will work and that it will be there.

SDE Fanatic

C’mon… that’s no trailer. It’s some crappy fan-made thing.

Here’s the official trailer… https://youtu.be/TwNowmXNo48

SDE Reader

Hi fellow SDErs,

just a note that the Gold vinyl limited to 4,400 is moving fast. I decided to act last night when more than 1/2 were sold out in less than 24 hrs. My View Source-ery on their page tells me there are 1,534 copies left as of this writing. Down 250 since I checked 2 hrs ago.

Appears to be 10,000 for the box.

Also 2,830 of the 7,250 left for the 7” vinyl.

Hope this data is helpful to those patiently deciding which items to obtain. Cheers.

+ Paul, love the new site mate. Smooth and modern.

SDE Reader

Still double Gold LPs plus Gold 7“ available, just ordered it.

Kauwgompie
SDE Legend

Managed to grab the clear vinyl, gold vinyl and the gold single. I’m surprised those are not sold out yet like the last two Bowie Live Adventures releases.
I don’t mind the box. If the bonus content can be purchased separately (like Tom Petty Wildflowers) people are annoyed that it is no longer exclusive and if it IS exclusive, like the Prince box, then the other half is complaining. I’m in the “exclusive” camp. Glad this box offers some very wanted, exclusive content like the blue ray. Love that it has surround sound, even Atmos.
The price in Europe is insane of course. It’s even too high in the US. It’s worth about $75 max in my view. I’ll wait till the price drops.

SDE Fanatic

I love that I have exclusive stuff that in some instances is ‘worth’ good money, yet I’m definitely in the camp of non-exclusivity. I’d much rather have easy access to material along with everyone else, rather than over-worrying about whether I can buy it, or not. I say this as a highly motivated buyer who is normally quite switched on to getting the things I want to buy.

I’ve never yet been disappointed that things I have, that are worth a small fortune, devalue overnight when a reprint occurs. Perhaps this mindset is helped because I’ve never sold a thing in my life; yet I’m genuinely happy that as many people as possible have the chance to buy what they want.

I don’t get record companies who don’t seem to comprehend that physical items are still bought by more people than they realise. So why go for limited releases that sell out in seconds, leaving an unfulfilled ( and pissed off) customer base? They’d sell a lot more, over a longer period of time, if they let the record shops stock items that can be replenished as required. Sill, what the heck do I know about how the music market works having spent the whole of my life being obsessed by listening and purchasing music?!

I’m currently starting to work through my attic which is choc a block with cds, records, music magazines, Lego and nerf guns (the Lego and nerf guns are the childrens’). I’m discovering lots of old concert programmes / ticket stubs that I’ve kept. It’s taking me lots of time to photograph these items so I can uploaded to Instagram (#vinyl fan), so the actual tidying up is going at a snails pace!

I’ve yet to mention Prince, but it looks like the estate is taking lessons from Bowie’s with the European pricing for this release. Big mistake. I bought anything that moved from Bowie, but gave up some time ago when it was apparent that immediate profit maximisation came above selling fair priced packages. Where’s the rest of the picture disc series? Anyway, let’s hope the Prince estate carries on the brilliant work of 1999 and Sign ‘O’ The Times rather than getting obsessed by $$$$€€€€££££ when offering lesser items.

SDE Reader

I totally agree with it. Also got the clear (JPC) and both gold vinyls form Prince‘s website.
❤️

SimonP2
SDE Resident

The CLEAR vinyl version is now on sale in UK at HMV. £34.99 – free postage.

steve
SDE Resident

I find it hard to believe that this will be a US only release and we’ll be buying imports. Apart from Prince The Hits on vinyl, None of the other legacy releases have done that. This unreleased album seems too big a deal.

steve
SDE Resident

Ah I see. Yeah totally.

ScotsBear73
SDE Resident

I cant get over the European prices. What the hell is going on?

sideofham
SDE Reader

The UK price of the deluxe version is outrageous. One album plus a live disc for £150!

tintin
SDE Reader

Placeholder pages now seem to be up on Amazon but no prices showing yet.

AtomicSoda
SDE Resident

This is actually a decent deal at least here in America. The European prices
are a bit outrageous. Thank for posting this !

ScotsBear73
SDE Resident

The European prices for this so far are utterly shocking!

tintin
SDE Reader

I received an email from a Prince-specialist UK-based store and they say they only have very limited stocks of the deluxe edition and the price is £129.99 which they claim is the wholesale cost price to them. Would explain the high Euro prices.

Barneymam
SDE Resident

Biden could give an Executive Order against the mailing costs but he won’t. Check the UPS price from US to UK for Jakob Dylan, minium is £78!! to ship a SINGLE vinyl.

steve
SDE Resident

The US prince shop charged me $16 for shipping the gold versions to the U.K. but I have come across other record shops in the US quoting mental costs for shipping.

Jay Phillips
SDE Reader

I bought the deluxe box and the gold 7” from the US Prince store and was charged $14 to the UK.

CJ Southworth
SDE Legend

The US government doesn’t control postal pricing, and UPS (United Parcel Service) is different from USPS (United States Postal Service). UPS is a completely private corporation, while USPS is a quasi-governmental agency under the Executive branch, but the extent of Biden’s authority over it is the appointment of nine of the members of the board that oversee operations.

It’s also important to note a difference between postage and shipping. Postage is the real cost incurred to send any parcel or peice of mail through the USPS. Shipping (also “shipping & handling”) is the charge that the business levies to the customer to cover “shipping costs,” which is a broad range of things from the real cost of postage (or other shipping method, such as DHL, FedEX, UPS, etc.) to charges associated with the stocking, restocking, retrieval, and personnel associated with the process, including packing materials. Many businesses also use “shipping” rates as an additional line of income, especially when they sell at a discount. They can publicize “the lowest price” for an item, but then make back what they discounted it by through their shipping charges. You see this alot with smaller businesses and third party sellers–like all the sellers on Discogs who sell a CD for five bucks but then charge $25 or more for “shipping.” It allows their items to come up first (or near the top) when customers sort by price, so they maximize their visibility without losing profits.

As consumers, it’s difficult for us to know what we’re even paying for until the time arrives and we see how it was shipped. IMO, “shipping” has become something of a predatory practice, and the businesses then try to pass the blame to the actual shipper, when often the price we’re paying does not reflect the actual cost of shipment.

SDE Resident

The American record company is keeping all production local, so that Europe has to fall back on crippling import supplies? Or is there another reason? Can’t be Brexit this time ;)

Barneymam
SDE Resident

“Brexit”, a media catch-all for everything non related. The more people that dont quote “Brexit” the actual word, the better.

SDE Resident

Haha, I still haven’t learned that people can’t see my raised eybrow when I’m writing ironically. Fully agree with you, Barneyman!

stephendking
SDE Resident

Great news. Managed to order the gold vinyl LP and single from the US store for not too bad a delivery to the UK. Found FNAC in France are doing a clear vinyl too and with only 4 Euros delivery went for that too. Have a bad feeling about the cost of the deluxe box in Europe as per the Amazon Italy and France prices and the FNAC price which was comparable to the point where it’s cheaper to order from the Amazon US store even with postage and VAT added. Fingers crossed though for Amazon UK or any UK store as none currently advertising it.

MarkF
SDE Reader

I’ve ordered from Amazon.com, I know there’ll be VAT to pay and I can cancel if it becomes available cheaper in the UK. I also went for a clear vinyl version from FNAC – thanks for the tip.

ScotsBear73
SDE Resident

I think the VAT is included in the final price from the US. Stuff that I have ordered in 2021 has not had any additional costs after purchase.

stephendking
SDE Resident

Yes, I ordered the box from Amazon US and that included VAT and postage but still a lot less than any of the prices quoted online in Europe. I saw that HMV are after £130 for it so wouldn’t wait for the Amazon UK to ever set a price as it won’t be much different.

JohnInEly
SDE Reader

Thanks for letting us know about FNAC clear vinyl. Had ordered the gold vinyl from the U.S. Now have the clear version ordered, as well. My poor bank account.

SDE Fanatic

Has this got any connection to the vinyl that’s coming out on RSD ?

musicfan70
SDE Reader

Nope. The Truth was the fourth CD that came with copies of the Crystal Ball box set released in 1998.

Redrocket66
SDE Resident

Had a listen to this on Spotify. What a great album! Hope Crystal Ball gets a cd re-release soon at an affordable price.

thinwhiteduke
SDE Reader

Thanks for confirming that – away to search for my CD version now :)

SDE Fanatic

U.K. links are noticeably absent, which is odd, especially for Amazon who normally at least have a placeholder for stuff like this.

As for the content, no complaints from me

DaveW
SDE Reader

I’m finding UK Amazon is late on adding a lot of music presales nowadays

SDE Resident

I’m in agreement with the comments about how this has been bundled together with different formats to justify the expensive price, look at some of those Amazon EU stores prices. Wow!! Compare this to what the reissued SDE sets were being sold for and there is no comparison between the number of tracks vs what you paid.
I do have both the Piano and A Microphone & the Original sets but only when there was a price drop. For now, I’m interested in the CD and if at some stage there is a price drop or it gets released separately, the concert blu-ray.

JP Detroit
SDE Reader

CDJapan has a CD/Blu-Ray exclusive edition. Just dropped the $.
Of course not super cheap, but in the interest of saving precious shelf space and still wanting the blu-ray, that was the way to go.

2wicky
SDE Resident

They’re quoting around 55$ (+shipping) for this set – 1 CD + 1 BluRay – nice idea but the price is not!

SDE Reader

thanks for the heads up on this

Ramzoo
SDE Reader

You can get it as well through https://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Prince_000000000001482/item_Welcome-2-America_11778996

Be careful as Japan sells items made in Europe (shamed for not wrting "Czech Rep")...

Reason why, I always liked Japanese releases as it is sometimes different from the rest of the world (“The Scandalous Ses Suite” CD, “His Majesty’s Pop Life”..).

SDE Resident

CD will do for me …wonder when some Uk links will appear ..

PrinceFan
SDE Reader

I’d be interested in just a CD/Blu-ray version.

Let’s hope the album is better than the turkey that was 20Ten! I’ve only managed to listen to that album twice as it’s just awful

SDE Resident

Yikes the price JPC are charging for the deluxe set ! Hopefully the UK prices are more reasonable !

musicfan70
SDE Reader

I’d be interested in the Blu-ray but not so much interested in the SDE for this one. Think i’ll wait and see if pricing goes down later or they release a CD/Blu-ray set.

Last edited 13 days ago by musicfan70
SDE Fanatic

I can’t help thinking that if Prince were still alive today, he would’ve wanted this album to remain unreleased, or if he did decide to release it, he wouldn’t exploit fans by selling it in such an expensive way. Granted, the vinyl boom wasn’t really in full force when he was alive, but I feel if he were alive, he’d simply release it as a CD and double vinyl separately, with a live DVD or Blu-Ray as a stand-alone release. This expensive bundle idea is purely a label’s invention. With him and Bowie, the labels now seem to be on a mission to milk it as much as possible. That isn’t to say artists who are still alive wouldn’t try to do the same, but I feel Prince was a value for money kinda guy. His 21 nights at the O2 and after shows were at affordable ticket prices, and his mammoth triple albums were charged at little more than a single CD!

CJ Southworth
SDE Legend

I think he definitely would have wanted the album released. According to the books that I’ve read, he was clear with people that the music in the Vault was for after he was gone. He couldn’t put it out at the rate that he was creating it, but he still wanted it to come out. Anything he didn’t want to be released, he deliberately recorded over. Susan Rogers talks about a song he recorded and played back for her, and she thought it was one of the most brilliant thing he had ever done, and she told him so, and he just said, “I don’t like it. Erase it,” and made her erase it right there. So anything we get from the Vaults was meant to be heard eventually.

As far as the money aspect of it, that I don’t know for certain. Part of me agrees with you, but then again there was the NPG Music Club, which kind of felt like a cash grab that didn’t pay off all that well for the people who paid.

Either way, excited for new work from Prince. Always.

JohnnyF
SDE Reader

Rumours are that Prince wanted “The Vault” recordings destroyed, unfortunately he didn’t ever write that down (no will).

CJ Southworth
SDE Legend

All I know is what I’ve read in biographies and some of the books that are dedicated to the vault recordings, and they all seem to have stated that the Vault was about having a legacy that would continue to release new music long after he was gone.

JohnnyF
SDE Reader

Considering how often he changed his mind, both positions could be true :).
I think the original comment about not wanting it released holds water though, he didn’t revisit his old stuff much unless it was an unfinished track. I do wonder what he thought of this music if it was just left in a locked room, other music tapes he destroyed just after recording them.
Annoyingly Prince seldom gave (meaningful) interviews so we are left with associates and friends giving some snippets of information….. his diary would have been an interesting read.

andrew R
SDE Resident

Big box ordered yesterday, cancelled today . Decided don’t need another big box with a load of stuff I don’t even look at . Will get the vinyl I think .

SDE Resident

You’ll regret it! (not a threat, just an observation reflecting my own experience :D )

Keith S
SDE Reader

I am confused as the Concert seems to have nothing in common with the album other than the year of recording. Owning 1999, Purple Rain and SOTT the concerts seemed to have a certain amount of relevance to the album. The ‘Welcome 2 America’ Tour featuring no tracks off the album seems odd: or have I missed something.

It also seems, unlike the other releases, there is more additional ‘fluff’ i.e. backstage passes etc.. which seems a bit out of step with the other releases which focus on the music and its context.

It seems this release should have been vault material added on to an actual release (20Ten) rather than a stand alone product, otherwise it would have been released as an album at the time.

I wish the effort and expense on this release was used to acquire the rights to the SOTT movie, now on Amazon at £45 for the book style edition.

I hope the Prince estate does opt for a standard set of release formats:

  1. CD
  2. Vinyl
  3. CD/BD/DVD SDE
  4. Vinyl/DVD/BD SDE

I am still hoping that my old VHS copies of the Lovesexy Tour can be replaced with a Blu-Ray one day.

I think I will wait for the next album SDE release, even though it seems to be ‘spin the wheel’ and see where it lands in terms of original release date.

It also seems I need to start every paragraph with an ‘I’

CJ Southworth
SDE Legend

I think (there I go starting with I too, LOL) the main difference here is this is a SONY release rather than a Warner release. This may be more in line with what we have to look forward to as the catalog transitions to SONY. In this case, at least, Welcome 2 the America was an actual album, so it’s not like most other posthumous “albums” like the Michael Jackson estate put out, where it’s a bunch of tracks they could find and put together. Prince actually completed this album and then put it in the Vault, and as I mentioned elsewhere, the Vault material was meant for eventual release.

Sony’s view is likely that they may not have the rights to the Golden Era (yet), but they have the ability to say they have the “new” Prince album versus what others would see as archival material, even though the bonus material in the reissue packages could stand up against the regular albums just as easily as this project could. There’s a whole marketing angle they can take with that which Warner can’t do because of the nature of the way the rights are arranged right now.